Foods and Nutrition

[135711]

55% of your intake should come from complex carbohydrates
25% of your intake should come from proteins
20% of your intake can come from fats

[Aoife]

What percentage of that intake is chocolate?

[135711]

Ah yes, chocolate, the downfall of the universe. It wasn't an apple, no it was chocolate. Chocolate is, strictly speaking a flavor. It depends where it's at. Is it chocolate chiffon pie/a cake/ice-cream? It could be chocolate candy, or chocolate milk. It is considered to be the most popular flavor in the world. In western europe people consume more chocolate candy than anywhere else in the world.

[a517dogg]

pixie stix?

[Swordsman]

Originally posted by 135711
55% of your intake should come from complex carbohydrates
25% of your intake should come from proteins
20% of your intake can come from fats

Make it simpler: Eat a variety of things, and exercise. If you eat a variety of things, you'll get a good mix of dietary intake. And if you don't exercise, it don't matter what you eat, you'll be unhealthy.

[135711]

what are pixie sticks?

[Swordsman]

Tubes of flavored sugar.

[135711]

i don't think i would try them. the calories aren't worth it, you'd eventually see the pounds creep up, and then you'll try to battle it off, for the sugar thing during fencing, just either bring gator aide and add a few teaspoons of sugar, or make your own rehydration drinks; water + sugar + salt. The sugar that is needed by the body is glucose; if you eat sucrose type sugars, they have to be converted first, so you wind up having to digest on the strip, which costs energy.

[a517dogg]

uhh, i don't know what you're talking about, but pixie stix rock. just ask anybody in the fourth grade.

[veeco]

I heard that you get the purest, most compatible with your body type of sugars from eating fruits. Fructose is one type of sugar and contrary to glucose, when you get fructose in your body you will get a long lasting blood sugar level whereas glucose will make it shoot up and then go down very quickly, therefore it has the potential of giving you hypoglycemia. Anyone can confirm?

[135711]

Glucose is more readily absorbed by receptor sites, it's because it's the sugar that the body manufacturers itself after eating foods, even other sugars. frutose became very popular in the 80's when eveyone jumped on the nutrition band-wagon. You can get fructose, like I just did by eating a bowl of sliced banana
with blueberries and cream.

If you keep it simple, and if the food industry kept things simple, then the foolish lifestyle we see today, probably wouldn't exist. Nutrition started as a professional field because of a Dr. Butterworth in Alabama, who wrote a keynote article called "The Skeleton in the Hospital Closet". He noticed that many patients went into the hospital for surgery, did very nicely, but died several days later, and after studying the phenomena, realized it was because the patient was not getting enough calories/etc.

So, things evolved, first we had glucose, then we went to special foods such as ensure for tube feedings; amino acids for total peri-nutrition [through a major artery]; and because it was such a successful transformation the industry then moved to diebetic foods, then low sodium foods for the hypertensive; and low-fat for the heart patient.

Then after that, the athletic coaches wanted to know more, so they went to seminars about foods and nutrition; they mico-nutriented the whole thing until everyone went crazy, and we had protein diets; carbo diets; water diets; etc. Then someone put pressure on the FDA and brought herbs into the mainstream.

In short; 55% from complex carbohydrates......etc The answer is like Rudy Volkman's answer Keep it Simple Silly!

also, if we go back to simpler fare: original flavor; low-fat; regular cereals; and other regular foods, it has a calming effect on the cashier. I can't explain it, but it works.

[Aoife]

pixie stix : i don't think i would try them. the calories aren't worth it, you'd eventually see the pounds creep up,

Not if you eat enough of them. Eat enough, and you just bounce off the walls for a few hours... calories gone!

If you eat a variety of things, you'll get a good mix of dietary intake.

Not if what you eat is a variety of different flavoured pixi stix

I have a dreadful diet, and I know it. One day it'll catch up with me. I do eat fruit and veg and salads and pasta and yogurt and other healthy-type stuff.... but I also eat a rather obscene amount of junk.

[135711]

If you eat foods before you fence or exercise, the food is in your digestive track trying to digest into it's elemental parts: the elemental parts of proteins are amino acids; the elemental part of a sugar is sucrose which still needs to be converted into a form of energy that the body can use. The body shouldn't be working to digest or convert foods into elemental parts while your fencing, it slows you down, so the thing to do for fencing, is to replenish your fluids. but you don't have to overdo it.

[Swordsman]

Originally posted by 135711
i don't think i would try them. the calories aren't worth it, you'd eventually see the pounds creep up, and then you'll try to battle it off, for the sugar thing during fencing, just either bring gator aide and add a few teaspoons of sugar, or make your own rehydration drinks; water + sugar + salt. The sugar that is needed by the body is glucose; if you eat sucrose type sugars, they have to be converted first, so you wind up having to digest on the strip, which costs energy.

Which brings me back to my point about exercising...

[Inquartata]

Originally posted by veeco
I heard that you get the purest, most compatible with your body type of sugars from eating fruits. Fructose is one type of sugar and contrary to glucose, when you get fructose in your body you will get a long lasting blood sugar level whereas glucose will make it shoot up and then go down very quickly, therefore it has the potential of giving you hypoglycemia. Anyone can confirm?

Well, it all depends on the glycemic index of the particular fruit in question. Some, pineapple for instance, give you the same sort of adverse insulin reaction as any other sugar.

[bug]

Mmmm, pineapple is my favorite thing to eat during competitions...

[Dav3ey]

During competition? One word:

Pedialyte.

[135711]

pedialyte, well, if you insist on drinking an infant beverage, sure, it's probably very easy to digest. my point about nutrition and why i gave up on the whole field, is that they put everything under a microscope and it became boring. it's aggrevating, when a person asks a question for example, you get people who take it seriously, and those who just want to play around, or they're looking for something else entirely different. then there are people who get so paranoid that if you ask them a question they feel that you're paying too much attention to them, but if you sent them a private message question, then it only gets worse, so, you see part of the problem of using the internet, is that it's very open to the world really, even criminals can jump into the net and write i suppose, but i've worked with the prison population and i've reached many people by consistently reaching back to it's original purpose, helping people.

pineapple by the way is highly allergenic to many people, and some go into anaphalanic shock just going near the stuff. it's probably better to go with juices that have less acidic content; such as apple juice. interestingly, most toddlers tolerate apple juice - [nb, infants shouldn't take juice before the age of 4 months]

[bug]

Pedialyte? Really? Why? And how did it even occur to you to drink it during competitions?

[135711]

the only rationale i can come up with, is that it's more readily digested. Baby food is designed to be easily chewed, swallowed, digested and absorbed. So, someone in the middle of a competition, or just before might drink pediolyte for the very reasons mentioned above, they can continue fencing, without using their stored energy to digest. But, it's such a minor point, it should have only a tiny bit of significance. The training table if you will, is on-going, every day with very little differences in it's overall makeup. It's not starving/not binging. I think, if I remember correctly, eating before fencing is not a good idea, but what you eat the night before competition is another matter all together.

Which brings up another question:

why do we train from 6:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m. at night, and compete at 8:00 in the morning? are we thinking here? [i wrote whey, as in curds and whey]