refFinder.net

[Mihail]

We are currently researching a way for the site to work for non-PayPal based payments and hopefully
will soon be able to provide our clientele with that luxury. However, at this stage in our development
we can only aid referees and organizers who have PayPal accounts or are willing to make a free PayPal
account in order to use the site. PayPal is turning into one of the most used ways for paying all sorts of
transactions from Bills to Online Shopping making it an extremely liquid form of US Currency. PayPal also
allows its users to transfer the money earned directly into their designated bank account so although we
may not be able to accommodate cash or check payments at this time our PayPal payment system is one
that is secure, fast, and reliable for both referees and tournament organizers.

Sorry -- this will by last post on the subject because I don't want to derail the thread. I understand that PayPal is the most popular payment method at the moment, but that doesn't mean it's unique. Amazon Web Pay (and I'm sure you'll agree Amazon is one of the most widely-used and secure service and product providers on the Internet) allows you to transfer money to your bank account as well... except that they don't charge you for it. It's completely free for both the sender and the receiver. And I doubt anyone would object to making an Amazon account (most will already have them). It also has some other options for added flexibility, like sending or requesting a payment via SMS

I know you guys have other issues to work on before this, but I hope you will address it eventually. Thanks again!

[Mac A. Bee]

...we are constantly working to include what you mention...refFinder is a site to trust...refFinder keep your information secure...

This would be more creditable if your Terms of Service (ToS) were more Google "Do no evil"-like and less Facebook "ToS-of-the-week"-like, e.g.

• refFinder may update its terms and services from time to time without notice to you...
• ..other notifications and that these communications are considered part of the www.reffinder.net membership and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them...
• ...the Service may come to include promotional publications..
• ...the Service...does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Materials...
• ...you may be exposed to Material that is offensive, indecent or objectionable
• ...you..bear all risks associated with, the use of any Materials, including any reliance on the accuracy...
• ...In no event shall refFinder...be liable for any damages (including...loss of...profit...) arising out of the use or inability to use the materials on refFinder's Internet site...
• ...your funds will not be disbursed until refFinder.net receives payment from the said tournament organizer and that refFinder.net is not responsible for the payment of your funds

[oiuyt]

This would be more creditable if your Terms of Service (ToS) were more Google "Do no evil"-like and less Facebook "ToS-of-the-week"-like, e.g.

Those seem mostly boilerplate. You'll find similar or functionally-identical provisions t most of the bulleted items in Google's ToS (e.g. possibility of offensive material, limited liability for damages, inclusion of promotional materials with service, right to update ToS, disclaimer of warranty of third-party materials).

-B

[Gav]

Guys, I think this a great and I know it's in its early stages at the moment. I think you might find there is an additional market for this sort of thing over here in Blighty.