01-20-2003, 02:10 PM
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| Sr. Men's Epee Results from San Diego??
the vaunted USFA website is once again experiencing "less than optimal performance"....does anyone have the resutls from men's epee in San Diego?
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01-20-2003, 03:03 PM
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| 1. Viviani
2. Hovarth
3. Demirchian
3. Tikhomirov
(then I am not sure of the order)
Kelsey
Buckley
Tausig
Tissot
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01-22-2003, 12:55 AM
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| tausig 8th, tissot 6th or 7th. i saw him fence ungar... ungar was very sick. he was kicking some *** and basically ran out of gas. martin lee, ungar and ben solomon all made round of 16. soren thompson didn't make points... eric hansen placed 32nd. | |
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01-22-2003, 01:51 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by a517dogg
tausig 8th, tissot 6th or 7th. i saw him fence ungar... ungar was very sick. he was kicking some *** and basically ran out of gas. martin lee, ungar and ben solomon all made round of 16. soren thompson didn't make points... eric hansen placed 32nd. | Are you sure Soren did not make points? I think I saw him lose to Cody Mattern in repechage... He might not have made _a lot_ of points, but I think he got some...
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01-22-2003, 12:48 PM
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| That's right. I talked to Soren right before the bout against Cody. He lost to Horvath in the round of 32 and met up with Mattern on the losing side (pretty tough when you had to meet Horvath in the first round of 32, and THEN meet "Matterhorn" Mattern on the LOSING side). So Soren was in the round of 32.
Cody lost to Martin Lee to get into the round of 16. I saw the last touch and it looked like a desperation run by Martin. But it worked. 15-14. Then he lost to some french guy named Sallembien.
Hansen lost to Lee in the first round of 32 as well, then lost again to someone else.
BTW, Lee took second in the Junior Men's Epee, losing to Kip Cox. Bay Area epee fencing is moving on up. NY epee fencing is slowly dropping.
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01-22-2003, 01:16 PM
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| Congrats to Mr. Sallembien!
Perhaps, those foil fencing bouts with EDEW last year are paying off!! | |
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01-22-2003, 01:54 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by edew
snip!!!!
BTW, Lee took second in the Junior Men's Epee, losing to Kip Cox. Bay Area epee fencing is moving on up. NY epee fencing is slowly dropping. | Eric, Eric, Eric,
Why do you have such a h***-on for NYC épéeists? 
BTW, if you look at the Columbus NAC, 10 out of the final 32 in ME were from NYC. Not bad.
Let's just say that the Bay Area in producing more top ME. I don't know that NYC is declining. Or, rather, ME is developing in areas other than NYC. This is a good thing for US fencing.
If you'd have to pick the center of men's épée in the US, it would still be NYC.
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01-22-2003, 01:57 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by edew
Cody lost to Martin Lee to get into the round of 16. I saw the last touch and it looked like a desperation run by Martin. But it worked. 15-14. | If I'm thinking of the correct match, then that was one awesome bit of desperation of which you speak. Lee's opponent must have made three attacks, all missed as Lee is running forward, the other guy running back and Lee making attacks of his own while in the fleche, then on one foot making the final touch. Quote: Originally posted by edew
Hansen lost to Lee in the first round of 32 as well, then lost again to someone else. | Solomon. | |
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01-22-2003, 02:34 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by damianip
Eric, Eric, Eric,
Why do you have such a h***-on for NYC épéeists?
BTW, if you look at the Columbus NAC, 10 out of the final 32 in ME were from NYC. Not bad.
Let's just say that the Bay Area in producing more top ME. I don't know that NYC is declining. Or, rather, ME is developing in areas other than NYC. This is a good thing for US fencing.
If you'd have to pick the center of men's épée in the US, it would still be NYC.
Paolo | NY Epee fencing is still pretty strong, but perhaps, I would not qualify it as a center of epee fencing in the US, at least not right now. There are still a lot of very good fencers, but there are also very good epee fencing clubs and teams in a lot of areas of the US, Texas is producing some strong epee, so is Ohio, and so is California.
I think this is about to change though. I think that the PWF is starting to produce some very good epee fencers and that Hungarian coach that they have at Fencer's club is I heard very good.
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01-22-2003, 02:37 PM
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| does anyone have the complete results (or could you hazard
a guess as to when they might become available?)
gracias
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01-22-2003, 02:47 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by float
does anyone have the complete results (or could you hazard
a guess as to when they might become available?)
gracias
-f | That's a good idea! Instead of running contests where people must find out who will be in the top 8 at a particular tournament, we should have contest where people actually try to predict how long it will take the results to be published!!
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01-22-2003, 02:50 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by edew
That's right. I talked to Soren right before the bout against Cody. He lost to Horvath in the round of 32 and met up with Mattern on the losing side (pretty tough when you had to meet Horvath in the first round of 32, and THEN meet "Matterhorn" Mattern on the LOSING side). So Soren was in the round of 32.
Cody lost to Martin Lee to get into the round of 16. I saw the last touch and it looked like a desperation run by Martin. But it worked. 15-14. Then he lost to some french guy named Sallembien.
Hansen lost to Lee in the first round of 32 as well, then lost again to someone else.
BTW, Lee took second in the Junior Men's Epee, losing to Kip Cox. Bay Area epee fencing is moving on up. NY epee fencing is slowly dropping. | One could also say that NY epee fencers in San Diego had to fence each other in repechage pretty early on, then opening the doors for the Californians who had much easier brackets (I know I did, Martin certainly had a tougher one than mine).
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01-22-2003, 04:41 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by veeco
That's a good idea! Instead of running contests where people must find out who will be in the top 8 at a particular tournament, we should have contest where people actually try to predict how long it will take the results to be published!! | On or before Friday, January 25....
2004
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01-22-2003, 10:25 PM
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| heeheeee - Eric you are so funny!!!!
Probably by 1/25/03 is more realistic.......
It shouldn't take much more time to actually verify the results in regards to the repechage, as well as being able to perform what-if analyses for the Junior world team. | |
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01-23-2003, 05:58 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by nahouw
heeheeee - Eric you are so funny!!!!
Probably by 1/25/03 is more realistic.......
It shouldn't take much more time to actually verify the results in regards to the repechage, as well as being able to perform what-if analyses for the Junior world team. | I wrote, "Friday, January 25..." because there's no Friday January 25 in 2003. There is one in 2004, though (if I did my math right).
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01-23-2003, 06:44 PM
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| anybody know how the final 8 DEs lined up for junior epee?
I saw bratton beat ben ungar 15-14 in OT. that was a bout. and howard beat french 15-14 to make the 32. | |
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01-23-2003, 07:11 PM
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| Viviani - Kelsey
Demirchian - Tausig
Tikhomirov - Buckley
Horvath - Tissot
Duh... I didn't even see it was _JUNIOR_ men's epee... Sometime I plan to stop wondering why people look at me strange...
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01-23-2003, 07:51 PM
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| Junior Men's Épée
1. Cox, Charles (NORTH CA)
2. Lee, Martin J (CENTRAL CA)
3.T Henderson, Jason V (NEW JERSEY)
3.T Hurme, Tommi K (SO. TEXAS)
5. Solomon, Benjamin J (NORTH OHIO)
6. Bratton, Benjamin E (METRO NYC)
7. Chinman, Nicholas S (COLORADO)
8. Howard, Greg E (INDIANA) | |
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01-23-2003, 09:24 PM
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| jec, i maent like who fenced who, etc. maybe even scores.
what were scores in the final 8 for the senior mens epee? | |
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