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    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    Let him quit then. There are many who wouldn't mind. There are those who would be happy to take his place. I also don't think that the input of any ED is vital regarding the Olympics.
    Who do you know of that is qualified and willing to take that job at that pay?

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    Leadership needed?

    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    Let him quit then. There are many who wouldn't mind. There are those who would be happy to take his place. I also don't think that the input of any ED is vital regarding the Olympics.
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    Who do you know of that is qualified and willing to take that job at that pay?
    I agree with pillow that the input of any ED is not vital regarding the Olympics. In fact the opposite may be the case.

    What is vital for the organization is to continue on the fiscal policy to retire the debt and balance the budget. This is the real serious problem now and will become even more serious over the next 2 years and may be the crucial problem after London if the results are similar to Antalya 2009 or worse and we will still be saddled with a substantial deficit.

    This is why I can't even fathom who could have thought that it was a bright idea for Greg Dilworth to step down from the EC and treasurer position and migrate over to the ED staff position. Certainly his first actions as ED leave even the most benevolent observer scratching his head in puzzlement. And we are all waiting to see what will happen at the BoD meeting...

    As to who would be qualified (I don't know about being also willing) for the ED job I could point to several people participating in the discussions in this forum who have often come up with very sensible solutions and ideas which are routinely ignored and dismissed by the power that be.

    The most needed qualities for an ED are
    • to have common sense,
    • to be willing to lead, communicate effectively, AND to listen, and
    • to act quickly when things go out of hand, always within the existing rules or to propose a change in the rules first and then act accordingly when they are approved.

    We aren't there yet by a long shot.

    Of course we also need to have a BoD and EC who understand what their roles are, and we aren't there yet either...


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    I am sure there are many who are willing, and many who are capable, and many who would move to Colorado Springs, and many who would be happy with that pay - but I think the intersection of those sets may be empty.

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    What is vital for the organization is to continue on the fiscal policy to retire the debt and balance the budget. This is the real serious problem now and will become even more serious over the next 2 years and may be the crucial problem after London if the results are similar to Antalya 2009 or worse and we will still be saddled with a substantial deficit.

    This is why I can't even fathom who could have thought that it was a bright idea for Greg Dilworth to step down from the EC and treasurer position and migrate over to the ED staff position.
    The Executive Director has immediate, hands on control over our spending and income. They effectively sign the checks, they decide when the payments are made, they approve the expenditures we make. As such, if the Executive Director is appropriately dedicated to paying down the debt and placing us on a firm financial footing, the Treasurer needs to exercise much less rigid oversight. As we discovered, Massik did not have that dedication, and Kurt had other issues. If Greg performs well as ED, losing him as Treasurer doesn't cost the Association very much as he's still overseeing our finances.

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    Right. In a lot of small businesses one person does several jobs, and the USFA isn't quite so large IMO that it cannot function without a separate CEO and CFO.

    I may be wrong. Maybe the combined workloads so stressed out Greg that he started making bad decisions like changing the schedule without following the proper rules...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    So in your opinion: No significant penalty for Greg, and no Div I NAC for the rest of us?
    Yup. IMO the new BoD will not assert themselves for fear that they might make a bad decision and be held accountable, It's much less streesful to let UF Dilworth run the show. If he really screws up (e.g> no Olympic results) they can pint the finger at him and if things go well they can take credit for not pushing him out. It's a perfect win-win tautology.

    As far as the rank and file membership, most BOD members will not lift a finger to serve their interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heretic View Post
    I'll take that action.
    So which of us won?
    =)=///

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    We may never know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    So which of us won?
    You should know by now that when it comes to the actions of the USFA, neither one of us can ever win.

    Quote Originally Posted by gladius View Post
    I agree with pillow that the input of any ED is not vital regarding the Olympics. In fact the opposite may be the case.

    What is vital for the organization is to continue on the fiscal policy to retire the debt and balance the budget. This is the real serious problem now and will become even more serious over the next 2 years and may be the crucial problem after London if the results are similar to Antalya 2009 or worse and we will still be saddled with a substantial deficit.

    This is why I can't even fathom who could have thought that it was a bright idea for Greg Dilworth to step down from the EC and treasurer position and migrate over to the ED staff position. Certainly his first actions as ED leave even the most benevolent observer scratching his head in puzzlement. And we are all waiting to see what will happen at the BoD meeting...

    As to who would be qualified (I don't know about being also willing) for the ED job I could point to several people participating in the discussions in this forum who have often come up with very sensible solutions and ideas which are routinely ignored and dismissed by the power that be.

    The most needed qualities for an ED are
    • to have common sense,
    • to be willing to lead, communicate effectively, AND to listen, and
    • to act quickly when things go out of hand, always within the existing rules or to propose a change in the rules first and then act accordingly when they are approved.

    We aren't there yet by a long shot.

    Of course we also need to have a BoD and EC who understand what their roles are, and we aren't there yet either...

    Even a perfect candidate could not be successful in an organization that is a structurally toxic labyrinth populated by self-serving incompetents. The USFA needs radical organizational reform and a healthy purge before it can be effective.

    And as to the fantasy that Dilworth can/will have an effect on the 2012 US results - watch how fast he distances himself when those results don't measure up to the perfect storm of '08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heretic View Post
    You should know by now that when it comes to the actions of the USFA, neither one of us can ever win.
    Heh heh. Good one. I'll be enjoying some crab in your honor. You can have a slice or two of NY style pizza.
    =)=///

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