2010 NCAA Prediction thread

[epeemike81]

Well, now that the field has been released, it's time to predict the winners (both team and individual).

Here's the field: http://www.ncaa.com/sports/c-fenc/sp...031610aaa.html

Have at it!

-m

[catwood1]

I'll say Peter French, Garek Meinhardt, Daryl Homer, Courtney Hurley, Dorris Willet, and Becca Ward.

[edew]

Top 4s in each weapon (not claiming the eventual finish)

ME:
Zingerman
Tolkachev
French
Chinman

MF:
Meinhardt
Castellani
Chamley-Watson
Willette

MS:
Ochocki
Buckley
Homer
Nydam

WE:
Brandfield-Harvey
(the better) Hurley
Christa French
Ferdman

WF:
Ross
Willette
Dmytruk
Reese

WS:
Ward
Vloka
C Thompson
Wozniak

Team finish
ME:
1. PSU
2. USAFA
3. OSU
4. SJU
5. Harvard

MF:
1. ND
2. PSU
3. OSU
4. SJU
5. UPenn

MS:
1. PSU
2. ND
3. SJU
4. OSU
5. Harvard

Overall for Men's:
1. PSU
2. OSU
3. ND
4. SJU
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. UPenn
8. Stanford

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WE:
1. ND
2. PSU
3. NW
4. CU
5. SJU

WF:
1. PSU
2. OSU
3. CU
4. SJU
5. ND

WS:
1. ND
2. SJU
3. PSU
4. CU
5. UPenn

Overall for Women's:
1. ND
2. PSU
3. CU
4. SJU
5. OSU
6. Princeton
7. Harvard
8. NW

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Overall:
1. PSU
2. ND
3. SJU
4. OSU
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. UPenn
8. CU
9. USAFA
10. Yale

[hologramqueen]

Personally, I'm thankful that my daughter made the 24's.. anything after that IMHO, is gravy! (Mama's proud)

[NGV]

I'll give it a shot:

ME: 1. French 2. Zingerman 3. Wicas and Israelian
MF: 1. Meinhardt 2. Chamley-Watson 3. Willette and Castellani
MS: 1. Homer 2. Spear 3. Nydam and Zuck
WE: 1. Mills 2. Ferdman 3. Hurley and Hurley
WF: 1. Ross 2. Willette 3. Dmytruk and Reese
WS: 1. Ward 2. Wozniak 3. Vloka and Borrmann

Overall: Notre Dame

[catwood1]

I'll give it a shot:

ME: 1. French 2. Zingerman 3. Wicas and Israelian
MF: 1. Meinhardt 2. Chamley-Watson 3. Willette and Castellani
MS: 1. Homer 2. Spear 3. Nydam and Zuck
WE: 1. Mills 2. Ferdman 3. Hurley and Hurley
WF: 1. Ross 2. Willette 3. Dmytruk and Reese
WS: 1. Ward 2. Wozniak 3. Vloka and Borrmann

Overall: Notre Dame

The fact that you don't have Alex Ochocki making the 4 I find pretty surprising. He won it last year and is now on your Junior Team.

[edew]

All PSU fencers get a +2 during their DEs, so if you think fencer X from PSU can score 13 points against some opponent on a regular day, then expect X to win against that opponent on NCAA National Championships.

[prototoast]

The fact that you don't have Alex Ochocki making the 4 I find pretty surprising. He won it last year and is now on your Junior Team.

That's the fun of predicting. Sometimes you have to go with a few upsets. It's not terribly uncommon for a fencer to win one year and not make the 4 the next (for example, Spear won in 2008 and didn't make the 4 last year when Ochoki won).

[NGV]

The fact that you don't have Alex Ochocki making the 4 I find pretty surprising. He won it last year and is now on your Junior Team.

Well, there's not much point in offering an elaborate justification for my picks, since they basically involved a quick scan of recent results and nothing else.

That said, I think there's a pretty good case for these four ahead of Ochocki and others. Homer is the obvious favorite; Spear, Nydam, and Zuck are all ahead of Ochocki in the senior points, made the 8 at a Div. I NAC this season (unlike Ochocki), and are not on the junior team mainly because they aren't juniors. Also, Ochocki won't have any home field advantage this time around.

[la_riposte87]

MS
1. Homer
2. Cheney
3T. Bak
3T. Prochniak

[Mr.MightyMouse]

All PSU fencers get a +2 during their DEs

Surely there is a precedent, or a multitude of?

[DanInMI]

Zingerman will four-pete. (which will be a first ever in NCAA fencing.)

[epeemike81]

Zingerman will four-pete. (which will be a first ever in NCAA fencing.)

no, it really won't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mika'il_Sankofa

pretty sure there's at least 1 other, but I don't remember the name.

-m

[edew]

Maybe first ever in epee. There are others who four-peated in MS and WF. Did Felicia Zimmermann four-peat, but three times in foil and once in epee?

[oiuyt]

no, it really won't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mika'il_Sankofa

pretty sure there's at least 1 other, but I don't remember the name.

-m

Olga Kalinovskaya, WF

Maybe first ever in epee. There are others who four-peated in MS and WF. Did Felicia Zimmermann four-peat, but three times in foil and once in epee?

Felicia won twice, once in WF (1998) and once in WE (1999).

-B

[epeemike81]

Olga Kalinovskaya, WF



Felicia won twice, once in WF (1998) and once in WE (1999).

-B

Thanks. As usual, I can't rep you.

-m

[Mr.MightyMouse]

WS
Ward

MS
Homer

MF
Meinhardt

WF
Willette

ME
Zingerman

WE
Mills


Team
Notre Dame

[Mr.MightyMouse]

Maybe first ever in epee. There are others who four-peated in MS and WF. Did Felicia Zimmermann four-peat, but three times in foil and once in epee?

Quite a few threepeats, but only 1 4time champ so far.
Doris Willette will be going for her 3rd Championship, besides the Zingerman's well publicized attempt for 4.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...gChampions.pdf

I like this one more since it lists winning coaches as well :
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaafencing.shtml


8 Olympic Medalists amongst the NCAA Champion Fencers / yet 1 Coach.

[oiuyt]

Quite a few threepeats, but only 1 4time champ so far.

Other than the OTHER 4-time champion, of course.

As previously mentioned in this thread.

-B

[Mr.MightyMouse]

Other than the OTHER 4-time champion, of course.

As previously mentioned in this thread.

-B

Sorry - meant Men's Champion.