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    Poll closes in 3 hours if you want to get your last minute pick in
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    Poll closed, results as follows:

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    1. Penn State 23 (51%)
    2. Notre Dame 17 (38%)
    3. Ohio State  3 (07%)
    4. Harvard     2 (04%)
    Notre Dame is currently in the lead, followed by St. John's and Penn State (at the time of this posting). Live results are available here thanks to the wonderful crew over at Pris de Fer.
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    PSU back on top. ND in second.
    =)=///

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    Seems like my link to the results page is not refreshing...still has ND on top...only showing first round results for WF and WE

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    Notre Dame is back on top with 50 victories, follow by St John's 49 and Penn State's 48. Princeton is in a relatively distant 4th with 42.
    >:U

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    where can I get a link? the one from pdf is not working for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooLoftheDeviL View Post
    Poll closed, results as follows:

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    1. Penn State 23 (51%)
    2. Notre Dame 17 (38%)
    3. Ohio State  3 (07%)
    4. Harvard     2 (04%)
    Notre Dame is currently in the lead, followed by St. John's and Penn State (at the time of this posting). Live results are available here thanks to the wonderful crew over at Pris de Fer.
    Thanks for the web page by Pris de Fer. It is great.

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    OSU will not win. They only have 11.

    St. John's is currently ahead, and has a decent shot, as their men's fencers are solid. Foil is likely their weakest.

    ND has a strong men's squad as well. I'm surprised PSU is behind right now. I'd like to see ND or SJU win, I think it will be ND.

    It depends largely on one or two key fencers for each squad though. Chinman for PSU, Watson for SJU, Vomero for SJU, Schoolcraft and Kaull for ND.
    "Preparation is the soul of tactics. And tactics are the soul of fencing."-Aladar Kogler

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    end of 1st day, SJU on top, ND one win behind. PSU three behind that. Princeton is 4th. Hmm...
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    Anyone want to update your prediction for overall NCAA champion after today's women's final? I predict Notre Dame will overtake St Johns in the men's events and out distance PSU.

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    Gotta keep to the predictions. No fair changing things after new information are introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    Top 4s in each weapon (not claiming the eventual finish)

    ME:
    Zingerman
    Tolkachev
    French
    Chinman
    Got 2

    MF:
    Meinhardt
    Castellani
    Chamley-Watson
    Willette
    4 for 4!

    MS:
    Ochocki
    Buckley
    Homer
    Nydam
    2 for 4

    WE:
    Brandfield-Harvey
    (the better) Hurley
    Christa French
    Ferdman
    2 for 4

    WF:
    Ross
    Willette
    Dmytruk
    Reese
    2 for 4, almost 3 for 4

    WS:
    Ward
    Vloka
    C Thompson
    Wozniak
    3 for 4

    Team finish
    ME:
    1. PSU
    2. USAFA
    3. OSU
    4. SJU
    5. Harvard
    Not so close...

    MF:
    1. ND
    2. PSU
    3. OSU
    4. SJU
    5. UPenn
    Pretty close...

    MS:
    1. PSU
    2. ND
    3. SJU
    4. OSU
    5. Harvard
    Pretty close as well

    Overall for Men's:
    1. PSU
    2. OSU
    3. ND
    4. SJU
    5. Harvard
    6. Princeton
    7. UPenn
    8. Stanford
    Just a bit of transpositions among OSU/ND/SJU

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    WE:
    1. ND
    2. PSU
    3. NW
    4. CU
    5. SJU
    Bad call on NW, CU and SJU. Sorry, SJU

    WF:
    1. PSU
    2. OSU
    3. CU
    4. SJU
    5. ND
    Completely misunderestimated SJU

    WS:
    1. ND
    2. SJU
    3. PSU
    4. CU
    5. UPenn
    Very close except for UPenn (and no OSU)

    Overall for Women's:
    1. ND
    2. PSU
    3. CU
    4. SJU
    5. OSU
    6. Princeton
    7. Harvard
    8. NW
    Again, misunderestimated SJU

    ======================

    Overall:
    1. PSU
    2. ND
    3. SJU
    4. OSU
    5. Harvard
    6. Princeton
    7. UPenn
    8. CU
    9. USAFA
    10. Yale
    4 correct, 2 pairs transposed (SJU/ND and UPenn/CU).

    /You're welcome, E "The Greek" DEW
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    That's some pretty impressive picking. How did the midseason polls match the end results here?

    I thought ND's men's team was a little stronger than their women's, so I am surprised things shook out the way they did. A few top performers came away with lower numbers than I would have expected. Plus, Penn State definitely turned it on when they needed it.
    >:U

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    Quote Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA View Post
    Plus, Penn State definitely turned it on when they needed it.
    To quote Edew from earlier in this thread:
    All PSU fencers get a +2 during their DEs, so if you think fencer X from PSU can score 13 points against some opponent on a regular day, then expect X to win against that opponent on NCAA National Championships.
    Penn State always brings it strong for NCAAs.

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