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    Obama sends the Dalai Lama out the back door with the trash!:mad:

    Isn't there anyone in the White House that actually thinks? If Bush had done this, he would have been labeled a racist. I don't think Obama is a racist, just stupid! Is he really that concerned about upsetting his loan sharks, the Chinese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Isn't there anyone in the White House that actually thinks? If Bush had done this, he would have been labeled a racist. I don't think Obama is a racist, just stupid! Is he really that concerned about upsetting his loan sharks, the Chinese?

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    Okay, let's add a bit of clarity to the picture, shall we? The door behind the Dali Lama is the north entrance to the Palm Room. The Palm Room is between the Residence and the West Wing. At the time the photo was taken, Dali Lama was facing Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, the Dali Lama did not go out a "garbage exit".

    Here's a link to the Palm Room:
    http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/palm-room.htm

    Yes, it's stupid to have garbage next to a stately exit. Is this Obama's fault? I think I'd probably blame the WH maintenance staff instead of the President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat Slug View Post
    Okay, let's add a bit of clarity to the picture, shall we? The door behind the Dali Lama is the north entrance to the Palm Room. The Palm Room is between the Residence and the West Wing. At the time the photo was taken, Dali Lama was facing Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, the Dali Lama did not go out a "garbage exit".

    Here's a link to the Palm Room:
    http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/palm-room.htm

    Yes, it's stupid to have garbage next to a stately exit. Is this Obama's fault? I think I'd probably blame the WH maintenance staff instead of the President.

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    That's okay. I expect you to defend Obama at all costs!

    Obama refuses to meet with the Dalia Lama in the Oval Office and sends him out the garbage door. Sounds like a snub to me to avoid pissing off the Chinese.

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    I think BB has a valid point on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessicasimpson View Post
    I think BB has a valid point on this one.
    Well, I guess the stupid is spreading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    That's okay. I expect you to defend Obama at all costs!

    Obama refuses to meet with the Dalia Lama in the Oval Office and sends him out the garbage door. Sounds like a snub to me to avoid pissing off the Chinese.
    BB, I must be getting old and my memory is failing me. Can you remind me where President Bush received the Dalai Lama in 2001? I have a vague recollection that it was not the Oval Office but I could be wrong. Can you set me straight? Please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat Slug View Post
    BB, I must be getting old and my memory is failing me. Can you remind me where President Bush received the Dalai Lama in 2001? I have a vague recollection that it was not the Oval Office but I could be wrong. Can you set me straight? Please?
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    I've been trying to set you straight, but nothing is getting through.

    You often use Bush, who liberals have called the worst President in the history of the US, as a defense for Obama. At best, Obama tried to be like Bush and failed, which means he isn't even as good as Bush.

    If you want a comparison:
    Bush met with the Dalai Lama just before his trip to China, stating that China wouldn't set the timetable for the meeting. And Bush also presented the Dalai Lama a US Congressional Gold Medal in a very public ceremony.

    Let's see, Obama refused to meet with the Dalai Lama before his visit to China in order not to offend them. And now, a great photo op of the Dalai Lama being shown the back door with the garbage.

    So yes, I think Bush was much more respectful and presidential than Obama!

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    Ah yes, the Map Room. The room where all the assholes go. I do find it odd that they don't seem to have exchanged scarves. But perhaps they did that already??

    Now, I realize the Dalai Lama is an interesting guy. I enjoyed it when I got to see him in person. I'm not, however, exactly sure why BB thinks it's important for Obama to meet with him in the Oval. I don't necessarily think it isn't important, I would just appreciate hearing BB's reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint View Post
    Ah yes, the Map Room. The room where all the assholes go. I do find it odd that they don't seem to have exchanged scarves. But perhaps they did that already??

    Now, I realize the Dalai Lama is an interesting guy. I enjoyed it when I got to see him in person. I'm not, however, exactly sure why BB thinks it's important for Obama to meet with him in the Oval. I don't necessarily think it isn't important, I would just appreciate hearing BB's reasoning.
    Obviously you think it was acceptable to send him out the door with all the garbage piled up! Why? Even the biased media doesn't agree with you.

    When you saw him in person, did you throw garbage at him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Obviously you think it was acceptable to send him out the door with all the garbage piled up! Why? Even the biased media doesn't agree with you.

    When you saw him in person, did you throw garbage at him?
    Putting words in my mouth, AND not answering my question! Classy.

    Again-- Why do you think it's important that Obama meet with the Dalai Lama in the Oval Office?

    The Dalai Lama is many things to many people. He was meaningful enough to me that I stood in line to get a ticket to see him in person, but it was largely based on his incredibly varied life experiences, not based on his titles that I wanted to hear him speak. I expect that the reason you want him to talk to Obama is based on his titles and not his life experience.

    In my estimation, he has two titles of most importance. I am wondering which you personally value more. It's not a trick question. I'm honestly curious.

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    I have a good price for selling the Brooklyn Bridge to anyone who things BB actually cares one way or the other about the Dalai Lama. He's just doing dittohead duty repeating Rush rants: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    I have a good price for selling the Brooklyn Bridge to anyone who things BB actually cares one way or the other about the Dalai Lama. He's just doing dittohead duty repeating Rush rants: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html
    No, I initially heard about it on NBC. I don't listen to Rush; but I do hate it when he quotes me without giving me credit!

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    I suspect that for many conservatives, his value rests mainly in the fact that he is a thorn in the side of China. Plus he is a tireless advocate for peace and freedom, the beliefs in which, it may shock some people to hear, are not the sole purview of liberals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    I suspect that for many conservatives, his value rests mainly in the fact that he is a thorn in the side of China. Plus he is a tireless advocate for peace and freedom, the beliefs in which, it may shock some people to hear, are not the sole purview of liberals...
    There are plenty of people that are thorns in the side of China. Bloggers in their PJs are thorns in the side of China. That doesn't mean that they should visit Obama in the Oval. It doesn't mean they shouldn't either.

    Obama met Wangari Maathai when he was a senator and was in Nairobi in 2006, but I don't believe has received her in the White House at all yet. If he does, which room is appropriate? What about Nelson Mandela? With Mandela, while he is a Peace Prize recipient and former Head of State, he has also officially retired from public life. Does that affect what kind of reception would be appropriate?

    Look, I get that there are a LOT of reasons why someone would want to talk to the Dalai Lama. Interesting life and all that. But. One more time. What I want, from BAYOU BUM, who started the thread, and is "mad" about the way the man was treated, is why it is important that Obama meet with him, in BB's opinion.

    Why is this a hard question?? If BB is so offended by the manner in which the man walks in and out of the White House that BB needs to post here about it, why not have an opinion about this??? Boggles my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    No, I initially heard about it on NBC. I don't listen to Rush; but I do hate it when he quotes me without giving me credit!
    shoot - one of you should pay royalties to the other...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint View Post
    What I want, from BAYOU BUM, who started the thread, and is "mad" about the way the man was treated, is why it is important that Obama meet with him, in BB's opinion.
    I'm not trying to run interference for BB; really, I'm not!

    OK, so I just read back over the thread, and I don't see where BB was even making the argument that "it's important for Obama to meet with him".

    Obama DID decide to meet with him. So what I see BB asking is: Given the fact that he accepted the meeting, why the appearance of a less-than-diplomatic treatment of him?

    PS I don't really find it the snub that BB seems to think it was. I suspect that the heavy snows in DC probably disrupted the trash collection schedules, and that under normal circumstances there would have been no bags in the photo op. Nor do I think you're off base asking BB to explain his reasoning on other aspects of White House protocol. It's just that it looks like a bit of an unrelated question to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    No, I initially heard about it on NBC. I don't listen to Rush; but I do hate it when he quotes me without giving me credit!
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    Ironically, given the Dalai Lama's principles, he probably wasn't offended at all....and probably wouldn't wish others to be offended on his behalf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    If Bush had done this, he would have been labeled a racist.

    Here's a sentence where you just made something up.

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    .... and not for the first time. This is just another transparent example of BB's mock outrage for trolling purposes.
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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