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    President Obama: Keeping it real in his STFU address

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    that's pretty funny - even though i don't follow politics it's crazy ridiculous with this thing about healthcare - people and their ****ing words man

    i dont care if it was called Nazicommunofacist-care what kind of inhuman monster doesn't want healthcare accessible to all americans - people ****ing baffle me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidX View Post
    what kind of inhuman monster doesn't want healthcare accessible to all americans - people ****ing baffle me.
    People who have healthcare and think expanding it will take away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thereom4 View Post
    People who have healthcare and think expanding it will take away from them.
    Don't forget all the partisans too; those people who will vote against anything proposed by the other party. It's sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauptman View Post
    Don't forget all the partisans too; those people who will vote against anything proposed by the other party. It's sickening.
    Yup, and polling data shows the President Obama is the most polarizing President in modern history. Where he had united people during the campaign, he has lost that support due to the partisan nature of his Presidency.
    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-in-history/1

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/125345/Ob...spx?CSTS=alert

    President Obama was elected because many Republicans switched parties to support him. He also garnered the vast majority of the independent voters. Currently his support base seems to exist only within the Democratic party as the GOP voters who supported him based on his campaign speeches have abandoned him based on his actions. The independent voters who supported him seem to have mostly abandoned him as well, and polling data from multiple sources seems to indicate they are mostly concerned with the out of control spending and strong handed manipulation of the issues.

    It will be interesting to see where all this ends up in the upcoming mid-term elections as well as to see what can be accomplished by the next Presidential cycle in 2012.
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    And don't forget those of us who have noticed that Obama and the Congressional Dems don't appear to know sod all about basic economics and truly seem to believe that free lunches ARE possible...

    Said the "inhuman monster".
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    i wasn't talking about politics or anything in particular - i just think anything and everything should be done to get people healthcare

    I mean if f*cking CANADIANS can figure it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauptman View Post
    Don't forget all the partisans too; those people who will vote against anything proposed by the other party. It's sickening.
    You're right. That is why all the Democrats are being replaced in elections. Wouldn't it be nice if they actually read the bills and supported a good health care plan like the republicans proposed on

    www.gop.gov/solutions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    You're right. That is why all the Democrats are being replaced in elections. Wouldn't it be nice if they actually read the bills and supported a good health care plan like the republicans proposed on

    www.gop.gov/solutions
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidX View Post
    i wasn't talking about politics or anything in particular - i just think anything and everything should be done to get people healthcare

    I mean if f*cking CANADIANS can figure it out...
    So I take it that you are living in penury after giving away all of your money to this noble cause?

    Oh, probably you meant that everything should be done to get other people to get people health care...

    The drowning man analogy returns!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    That is why all the Democrats are being replaced in elections.
    [Citation Needed]
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    Quote Originally Posted by melensdad View Post
    President Obama was elected because many Republicans switched parties to support him.
    [Citation Needed]
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    Linda Dunn, here on f.net, for one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    Linda Dunn, here on f.net, for one...
    Anecdote != data.

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    Heh.

    It's one data point. But I'll leave researching an actual cite to melensdad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    Heh.

    It's one data point. But I'll leave researching an actual cite to melensdad.
    According to CNN exit polls, 10% of the GOP voters crossed over to join the majority of Independents and Democrats: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/res...s/#val=USP00p1

    Blogs and news stories detail it http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/3902516/ http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...republica.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by melensdad View Post
    According to CNN exit polls, 10% of the GOP voters crossed over to join the majority of Independents and Democrats: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/res...s/#val=USP00p1
    Apparently you have reading comprehension problems. McCain won 9% of Dems and Obama won 10% of reps, so that's a wash.

    Vote by Party ID
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    89%
    10%
    1%

    Republican (32%)
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    90%
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    44%
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    Considering that there were 86 million registered Democrats and only 55 million registered Republicans for that election, your "wash" would amount to around 3,650,000 more Democrats switching parties than Republicans.

    Less a wash than a scrubbing with lye soap and a wire brush. Not that it changed anything, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
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    With all due respect, McCain did more to defeat himself than Obama did to defeat him.

    Qutoe: I didn't leave the Republican party; the Republican party left me.

    I failed the "purity test" and was decreed a RINO and there are many, many others in the same boat. While the Democrats are running around like chickens with their heads chopped off, the Republicans are shifting further and further to the right until I think one needs to have a Confererate flag in the back of the pickup truck, along with a bumper sticker about the government keeping its laws off our guns and another bumper sticker about "it's a child, not a right" just to be accepted at a Republican fund-raiser. Being anti-union and a "REAL" American (meaning "white") isn't a stated requirement but it's implied.

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    I think Bush beat McCain. Or rather, the image of Bush projected by the left and the media did so.
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