Female equility,

[Catlady]

I agree, if all they have to do is show up, it's not fair, although don't assume that's all they do. Some high school bands may not be that rigorous, but the band at my high school worked very hard, and were very good.

Really, I didn't, and don't, care about letters. I just get tired of people who participate in an activity that takes as much time commitment and effort--if a different kind of effort in some cases-- as participating in sports does, not get as much respect for their hard work as the athletes do.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Math Team=Varsity Letter if you get enough points a year.

GO MATH TEAM! lol

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by Swordsman
Hey, I know what you're saying. I've heard about these bands before, and how their practices go. I'm talking about high-school level, though.

Sorry 'bout the rather terse tone of my last post...I just get VERY defensive when it looks like the marching activity's being given short shrift. Having been in a corps that now boasts 10 world titles since 1976 kinda breeds that attitude.

I'll email you a couple of clips...

BTW KShan...you DO realize the rep the Boston Crusaders have had for being a tough corps, right? They used ot get into fight with other corps back in the 70s

[KShan5[PrFC]]

I've heard it all, lol.

I may not try out for the Crusaders but rather a Div II corps near by. My playing is pretty good but my marching, well, it sucks, lol in comparison to the Crusaer kids. Take a yera in Div II improve marhcing and go to Crusaders.

[Swordsman]

Originally posted by Lady Cristina
First off if you guys want to argue between band and sports pick a real sport. Anyone can run it takes skill to play a real sport.

Running not a sport, hmm? My sport is YOUR sport's punishment! Running is the ORIGINAL sport, without which most of your current sports aren't even possible!! Football, soccer, etc. are in fact only different things to do while running.

Sure, anyone can run. But anybody can swing a batt, throw/kick/roll/hit a ball, point a sword, swing a racket, etc., too. Just not everybody can do it well.

And don't even get me started on form, technique, strategy, pacing, etc.

Running IS a real sport.

[Swordsman]

Originally posted by Purple Fencer
Sorry 'bout the rather terse tone of my last post...I just get VERY defensive when it looks like the marching activity's being given short shrift. Having been in a corps that now boasts 10 world titles since 1976 kinda breeds that attitude.

I'll email you a couple of clips...

BTW KShan...you DO realize the rep the Boston Crusaders have had for being a tough corps, right? They used ot get into fight with other corps back in the 70s

Hey, no problem. I'm just giving high school marching bands a "short shrift" - and then, only the people who deserve it.

[Inquartata]

Heh, in MY neighborhood growing up it was a survival activity, not a sport!

Come to think of it, that's probably how it started out on the African veldt, as well...

[lochinvar]

"Every morning when the sun comes up on the Serengeti, there is a lion who knows that if he cannot run faster than a gazelle, he will starve to death.

Every morning when the sun comes up on the Serengeti, there is a gazelle who knows that if he cannot run faster than a lion, he will be killed and eaten.

The moral?

Whether you're a lion or a gazelle, every morning when the sun comes up... you'd better be running."

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by KShan5[PrFC]
I've heard it all, lol.

I may not try out for the Crusaders but rather a Div II corps near by. My playing is pretty good but my marching, well, it sucks, lol in comparison to the Crusaer kids. Take a yera in Div II improve marhcing and go to Crusaders.

East Coast Jazz, perhaps? They're in MA...

Why Crusaders and not Cadets, Crossmen, Cavaliers, Santa Clara Vanguard, Blue Devils, etc for your Div I choice?

BTW, you could ALSO look into a Sr. corps nearbvy to build your marching chops. A lot of Jr kids do that before moving to a Div I DCI corps, then go back to the Sr when they age out.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

ECJ was exactly whtat I was going to try out for, just didn't klnow if you had heard of them. I signed up this year, but I could not make auditions/tryouts. I would do th Crusaders because they are nearbye. That 6 hour weekend stuff would not work out in CA. Plus they were #5 which is pretty damn good. And thanks for the suggestion on Sr. Corps. I'll look into that.

[DJ Apostrophe]

Kevin,
One of my friends' father's is in the crusaders. If you need a contact/ reference or anything like that... let me know at the next tourney. I can put you in touch with him.
-w

[oiuyt]

This is what we need more of, networking for fencers. Go out of your way to help other fencers with non-fencing world contacts.

-B :)

[Purple Fencer]

Especially in ANOTHER little known activity...drum corps!

Kevin -- I'm know as up on the Div II and II corps as perhaps I should, but I remember that ECJ wonthe Div II title a couple of years back.

DJ -- are you sure you don't mean the Boston Crusaders Alumni Corps? The one Kevin was thinking of has an age limit of 22.

[three_hundred_fifty_five]

Does it bother anyone that equality was spelled wrong?

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Originally posted by Purple Fencer
I remember that ECJ wonthe Div II title a couple of years back.

Yeah 1998. They tell you about it every minute or so at there booth at NESBA championships. NESBA=New England Scholastic Band Association.

[Crin Dalmeiier]

Originally posted by three_hundred_fifty_five
Does it bother anyone that equality was spelled wrong?

Nah, I really just found it amusing.

*grin*

Drum Corps rock, but I'm content with college-level marching band for now...if I don't maim my section leader and his dumb-butt assistant.

[JEC]

This post at the NY times (need to register) regarding title IX might be interesting to some of you. The link may only work today, as it is one of the headlines. Wrestling With Title IX - By JOHN IRVING

[JEC]

More links:

CBS sportsline - AP release

Worst case scenario - ESPN


Myles Brand was the President at Indiana University and was the person who dismissed Bobby Knight. He has said that he is more interested in the "student" part of the "student-athlete". Below is a link regarding his stand on title IX. You would have to skip to the middle of the article.

New NCAA commissioner stand on title IX - ESPN

[135711]

equity, parity, by any other name......
speaking of that, do you see the gigantic mess our political leaders are in over the issue of equity, and equal opportunity? it's a very difficult issue and here's why. usually people dream up ideas on the local level, and pass it along to the state level, who pass things up to the federal level, who don't know what's going on at the local level. hence a mess. as for football, I agree, it's long overdue for replacement, or at least a little less media attention. for one thing the size of people would whittle down to a nice 'fencing' size. I'd like to see: field hockey, volleyball, basketball, fencing, gymnastics, lacrosse, soccer, tennis, battmitton, as team sports offered in schools, and students have the opportunity to take their pick of several over the course of several years, and opt not to take football for example. my understanding is that the boys HAVE to take football as part of their curriculum, why is that?

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