Penn State Open 2009 Results - Fencer profiles

[MdA]

The results and some very nice articles about the 2009 Penn State Collegiate Open are posted here...

http://www.collegefencing360.com/cf360_blog/

This is a quantum leap forward for reporting of College Fencing in the USA.

Thanks to Pete LaFleur

[epeemike81]

Thanks to Pete LaFleur

The dude from that Dodgeball movie?

-m

[MdA]

The dude from that Dodgeball movie?

-m

Don't try that one on Pete ( in person)....he's heard it a million times...I mean com'on.....he's a sports info guy.

But since we are in the subject....Pete is doing this on his own with little support. He is interested in advertisers. Anyone interested in advertising on this site, please contact the editor through the website. He has stats on the number of hits during last season's NCAAs.

[seven6ty]

She then surrendered a total of only 13 touches in the first three DE rounds: 15-5 vs. Duke sophmore Dana Rosen (Mars, Pa.); 15-8 vs. Princeton freshman Brianna Martin (Short Hills, N.J.); and 15-4 vs. Ohio State senior Holly McKibben (Columbos, Ohio) in the semifinals.

Math??

[pillow]

Don't try that one on Pete ( in person)....he's heard it a million times...I mean com'on.....he's a sports info guy.

But since we are in the subject....Pete is doing this on his own with little support. He is interested in advertisers. Anyone interested in advertising on this site, please contact the editor through the website. He has stats on the number of hits during last season's NCAAs.

Maybe the USFA should buy some ad space on his site.

[seven6ty]

Paid for with a lifetime membership, of course.

[Mr.MightyMouse]

complete results in PDF

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...PSuResults.pdf

[Wafath]

This is a quantum leap forward ....

Please do not use that expression ever again. It does not mean what you think it means.

Thank you,

W

[Stormbringer]

This is a quantum leap forward...

Please do not use that expression ever again. It does not mean what you think it means.

Thank you,

W

Wordnet

quantum leap, quantum jump (a sudden large increase or advance) "this may not insure success but it will represent a quantum leap from last summer"

Answers.com

n.
An abrupt change or step, especially in method, information, or knowledge: "War was going to take a quantum leap; it would never be the same" (Garry Wills).

The Free Online Dictionary

quantum leap, jump
n
a sudden highly significant advance; breakthrough
[from its use in physics meaning the sudden jump of an electron, atom, etc. from one energy level to another]

Presumably, MdA was referring to how this article represents a sudden and significant change in style and/or degree of reporting, and that this change is (again, presumably) for the better (as opposed to a sudden and significant change for the worse) with regards to how the results of collegiate fencing competitions are typically reported.

How, then, is "quantum leap forward" not an appropriate - or easily understood - phrase?

[seven6ty]

Wafath is referring to the physics term, which describes the smallest observable quantities. (Example: Quantum physics, which studies sub-atomic behavior.)

In normal english usage, the word normally has the opposite meaning, so MdA was indeed using the word correctly.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quantum

[oiuyt]

The question becomes how many people consistently mis-using a term converts proper usage to what was formerly a mis-application.

I would argue that outside of physics the term has the meaning that MdA used it to convey. The purpose of language is to convey information and ideas and I believe that MdA did so in this case. Therefore it was not incorrect use of the language.

-B

That said, I agree with Wafath that the way the phrase is commonly used is incorrect.

[Wafath]

Yes, I am being pedantic. Others have summarized my objections well (or also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_leap). What is it called when a word or phrase comes to mean the opposite of the literal definition?

It's sloppy language. "Quanta" should imply that there is some form of step function in the underlying mechanism driving the change, not "There was a big change." And not all step changes are driven by the system, so just because the slope is steep doesn't mean it involves quantities. If you are going to make an analogy to quantum mechanics, please make it at least a 1ev potential well deep.

(For some reason this bugs me more than the common usage of "light years" as a unit of arbitrarily long time.)

W

[Goldgar]

What is it called when a word or phrase comes to mean the opposite of the literal definition?

I could care less.

[Mr.MightyMouse]

I could care less.

ditto - it irks me when fencing nonentities profess to be maestros - so should a thread be hijakkkkked to profess my eccentricity?
Thanks to MdA for the update - I completely forgot it was Penn State Open weekend.
Where was CSM's "Treasure"?

[epeemike81]

Where was CSM's "Treasure"?

Don't know the answer, but she was hardly alone in her absence:

Several of the top college women's sabreists were not at the 2009 Penn State Open, including three of the top-4 finishers at the 2009 NCAAs: Duke sophomore Becca Ward ('08 Olympic medalist; '09 NCAA champ), St. John's senior Dagmara Wozniak and Columbia senior Daria Schneider . Others of note who did not compete at the '09 PSU Open include Penn State sophomore Monica Aksamit (5th at '09 NCAAs), Columbia junior Jackie Jacobson (7th at '09 NCAAs) and Penn sophomore Dominika Franciszkowicz (12th at '09 NCAAs).

[kalivor]

Yes, I am being pedantic. Others have summarized my objections well (or also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_leap). What is it called when a word or phrase comes to mean the opposite of the literal definition?

I believe that it is called the normal and natural evolution of the English language. This is hardly the first word to have flipped meanings. You probably use many such words frequently.

[fdad]

I believe that it is called the normal and natural evolution of the English language. This is hardly the first word to have flipped meanings. You probably use many such words frequently.

I have to admit, there is one example of this that makes me crazy (maybe not the sole cause of my insanity - its has contributed), it is the evolution of:

"I could not care less" -> "I couldn't care less" -> "I could care less"

Taken literally, the first means "I don't care at all", and the last means "I care". OK, I feel better now, thanks for letting me vent. What was this thread about anyway?

[DavidX]

You guys are nerds - those chicks are hot.

Especially Anastasia Ferdman, Noam Mills, and Emily D'Agostino - lord'a'mercy.

(There was a quantum leap in my pants)

Where is the video of Meinhardt in the Junior World Championships?

[la_riposte87]

Any preseason predictions for NCAA individual, team top 3 finishes?