Horrible Refs

[Nico]

Ever had one of those tournaments where your ref just sucked?

Or the other way around, he was horrible but it affected your points in a good way?

For instance, a ref who normally refs foil doesn't care about your feet crossing over in saber. THAT would be nice.

[Coldfire]

Yes to both questions. Did this really need a thread?

[Mr.MightyMouse]

Ever had one of those tournaments where your ref just sucked?

Or the other way around, he was horrible but it affected your points in a good way?

For instance, a ref who normally refs foil doesn't care about your feet crossing over in saber. THAT would be nice.

that'd suck - since he'd encourage a bad habit.
switch to epee if refs bother you THAT much

[KD5MDK]

You think epee refs don't get any grief?

[K O'N]

You think epee refs don't get any grief?

Or, on occasion, deserve any?

K O'N
Still, we love you guys. And girls. Really. But for the record, you know, I was still on the strip when I hit. But that's ok. Really, it's fine. Hey, look, someone was video taping. Want to go look? Just for fun? No? Well, nevermind. But really, it's fine. You get to make one call for the whole bout and you blow it, heh, that's kind of funny, really, isn't it? Hey, nevermind, man, it's fine. Just fine.

[epeemike81]

Did this really need a thread?

This.

-m

[whtouche]

As long as it is a thread: Hey refs - ever had horrible fencers argue about hilariously correct calls and leave the tournament thinking you were a bad referee, then go home and start threads about it?
My favorite thing about these fencers is that since they're already right about everything they never have to get better at fencing. Now if only all the refs out there weren't so bad they could have some success..

[InFerrumVeritas]

As long as it is a thread: Hey refs - ever had horrible fencers argue about hilariously correct calls and leave the tournament thinking you were a bad referee, then go home and start threads about it?
My favorite thing about these fencers is that since they're already right about everything they never have to get better at fencing. Now if only all the refs out there weren't so bad they could have some success..

Look, the kids new. Cut him some slack and try not to tear him a new one quite so harshly.

As a side note, LOL.

[catwood1]

Nico, I would HIGHLY recommend lurking for a while. You just joined, and you've started a few threads. This is not the first where you've been met with criticism and sarcasm. F.net is a very small community, where the majority of posters know the identity of others. There is a dynamic, and new, uninformed, posters often aren't met with the nicest attitude.

Just... lurk for a while. Read and do minimal posting for a few months. I promise it'll get you far.

Or, continue in this path, and we'll continue to make fun...

[Wetmelon]

Umm. I had 3 great ref's at my first tournament :P And I know a 4th who's good. All were saber refs. Though one guy definitely wanted to be somewhere else, he called very well.

[epeemike81]

As long as it is a thread: Hey refs - ever had horrible fencers argue about hilariously correct calls and leave the tournament thinking you were a bad referee, then go home and start threads about it?
My favorite thing about these fencers is that since they're already right about everything they never have to get better at fencing. Now if only all the refs out there weren't so bad they could have some success..

Damn. Can't rep.

-m

[Nico]

Nico, I would HIGHLY recommend lurking for a while. You just joined, and you've started a few threads. This is not the first where you've been met with criticism and sarcasm. F.net is a very small community, where the majority of posters know the identity of others. There is a dynamic, and new, uninformed, posters often aren't met with the nicest attitude.

Just... lurk for a while. Read and do minimal posting for a few months. I promise it'll get you far.

Or, continue in this path, and we'll continue to make fun...

I don't really mind. I've been criticized all my life and I don't really care. Being a "noob" (heavy use of air quotes) is just part of the internet, right?

[RebelFencer]

Hey guys, have any of you had any horrible girlfriends that have broken your hearts?

[K O'N]

Hey guys, have any of you had any horrible girlfriends that have broken your hearts?

I know, right? And once again, try to get them to look at the video to see what really happened and see how far you get. Jeez.

[pinkelephant]

As long as it is a thread: Hey refs - ever had horrible fencers argue about hilariously correct calls and leave the tournament thinking you were a bad referee, then go home and start threads about it?
My favorite thing about these fencers is that since they're already right about everything they never have to get better at fencing. Now if only all the refs out there weren't so bad they could have some success..

Oh yes. I had one this weekend, who fleched at his opponent while in his own 2 metere box, missed, and left the piste. The inevitable happened - I moved his opponent forward one metre, placing the flecher over the back line, and awarded the hit. The guy was then complaining that I couldn't do that because he was fleching! I may have suggested he read the rules. Strangely, his team-mates weren't interested in backing him up! (It was the 5 Nations team event - England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland)

[foillion]

I know, right? And once again, try to get them to look at the video to see what really happened and see how far you get. Jeez.

"it wasn't me!"

-P

[oso97]

Oh yes. I had one this weekend, who fleched at his opponent while in his own 2 metere box, missed, and left the piste. The inevitable happened - I moved his opponent forward one metre, placing the flecher over the back line, and awarded the hit. The guy was then complaining that I couldn't do that because he was fleching! I may have suggested he read the rules. Strangely, his team-mates weren't interested in backing him up! (It was the 5 Nations team event - England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland)

Depends on how it happened.

Did he pass before leaving the strip? If so, then he _might_ have had a valid complaint...

[pinkelephant]

No, he didn't. I do know the rules.

[Insipiens]

No, he didn't. I do know the rules.

I expect he knows you know the rules. I am sure he also knows some of the readers of this board are capable of picking imaginary holes in your description. So if you say "fleched at his opponent while in his own 2 metere box, missed, and left the piste" without stating the (implicit and perhaps obviously so to some) fact that "he left the piste before passing his opponent" someone will argue about it.

[epeemike81]

I expect he knows you know the rules. I am sure he also knows some of the readers of this board are capable of picking imaginary holes in your description. So if you say "fleched at his opponent while in his own 2 metere box, missed, and left the piste" without stating the (implicit and perhaps obviously so to some) fact that "he left the piste before passing his opponent" someone will argue about it.

I think you're giving him a little too much credit. I don't think he was playing devil's advocate, but rather IS the someone who will argue about it.

-m