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    Palin's Book

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/ca...sorry-for-her/

    I've read at least 18 accounts disputed from the book and I do NOT consider these to be lies or fabrications. Let's face it, most of us don't have perfect recall and when we tell people about things that happened in the past, those stories sometimes morph over time. [Especially when sizes of fish that got away are involved.]

    One of the accounts listed here is one where I'm more inclined to believe the aid than to believe Palin's ghostwriter.

    Palin claims in her new book that she agreed to sit down with Couric partly because she felt sorry for her, after senior McCain adviser Nicolle Wallace told her that Couric suffered from self-esteem problems. It’s understandable that Palin would try to deflect blame for the interview: It was a disaster that hastened her unmasking as unqualified for the presidency.

    “It’s not true,” the McCain adviser I just reached said, laughing heartily at the claim. “It’s ridiculous.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ok-fact-check/

    Palin supporters believe 11 reporters poring over every word of her book is excessive- and further proof of the media's obsession and maltreatment of the hockey mom from Wasilla.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...act-Check.html

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politic...X9ucD5h7KMdcgJ

    And now there's even lists of lists for people to fact-check the statements in the book.

    MediaMatters, of course, also had a listing of errors found:

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200911150011

    My opinion: The publisher should have taken a little longer to release the book and run it through some copy editors and fact checkers first.

    Lynn Vincent, Palin's ghostwriter, has signed a non-disclosure agreement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Vincent

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    Poll is flawed. Not going to read it but do have an opinion.
    Reviews, fact-checkery and excerpts I've been exposed to suggests that it should probably carry a warning label.

    "Warning! Reading this book may cause brain damage".
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    The aftermath of the 08 campaign included the airing of a lot of embarassingly public anger from McCain staffers over having been forced to accept an albatross like Palin. I've heard on NPR that the majority of the book's content addresses the campaign and the McCain staff, so I would imagine this is Palin's attempt at damage control.

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    Interesting that most people are focsing on the CYA of Palin in reference to the McCain staff, but not much if any on the public policy in the book. Mr. Limbaugh has been quoted as saying that it is in fact an (paraphrasing here) "amazing public policy" tomb.. err.. tome.
    It would be interesting to hear what she has to say on the various public policy issues that face our nation and what she might suggest as solutions... Of course, I'm such a flaming liberal that I would never personally BUY this incredibly well researched and original 'work,' and I will instead wait around for some neo-fascist communistic personality cult leader to fill my mind with the appropriate belief about her instead.

    On another note, I wonder how her 5 chapter book has pre-sold so many copies before it even hit the stands...
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik_blank View Post
    It would be interesting to hear what she has to say on the various public policy issues that face our nation and what she might suggest as solutions...
    Remember the campaign?? She got asked those kind of questions and had no real response.

    Re the book...sorry, but not interested in a book ghost-written for an airhead who couldn't even be bothered to compete her term as Gov...or Mayor.
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    I think it is funny how much attention one conservative woman can get from the liberal media. The publicity has helped push her book to be a top seller and insure that she is a top fundraiser for the Republican party. She is like a modern day Joan of Arc, both sides are very afraid of her.

    As for some of the "facts" in the book listed, they are obviously desperate to find something. For example, in her book it is reported she was asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels. Then they reported that "although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel" in NY for a total trip cost of $3,000.

    This is what constitutes a lie? I've been to dinner with politicians that spent $3,000 in one night. Of course, never mind that Obama spent $250k of taxpayer money that could have been used to help the poor, just to go on a date to NY.

    I'm sure there are errors in Palin's book, just like there are errors in Obama's books. Personally, I don't care because non of them are worth the paper they are written on. At least she was smart enough not to use Ayers as a ghostwriter.

    Besides, once the liberals have eliminated all freedoms and start the book burning, there will be more to throw on the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erik_blank View Post
    On another note, I wonder how her 5 chapter book has pre-sold so many copies before it even hit the stands...
    I imagine most of the sales were to reporters looking for errors and lies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Besides, once the liberals have eliminated all freedoms and start the book burning, there will be more to throw on the fire.
    Strange that you are pointing the finger of book burning at liberals... Christian Church Book Burning - Oct. 2009

    Personally, I cannot think of a single U.S. liberal that supported the idea of burning books... Most of us are more interested in actually BUYING book and READING them than in using them to heat our homes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik_blank View Post
    Strange that you are pointing the finger of book burning at liberals... Christian Church Book Burning - Oct. 2009

    Personally, I cannot think of a single U.S. liberal that supported the idea of burning books... Most of us are more interested in actually BUYING book and READING them than in using them to heat our homes...
    As I mentioned in a previous post about these idiots, no where does it say their political affiliation. Are you implying there are no Christian liberals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    As I mentioned in a previous post about these idiots, no where does it say their political affiliation. Are you implying there are no Christian liberals?
    Hummm.... A quote from their "What we believe" page on their web site:

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanGraceBaptistChurchKJV.com
    We Believe In Biblical Separation. We believe that all the saved should live in such a manner as not to bring reproach upon their Saviour and Lord. God commands His people to separate from all religious apostasy, all worldly and sinful pleasures, practices, and associations, and to refrain from all immodest and immoderate appearances such as body piercing, bodily markings, alcohol, drugs, smoking, men with long hair, women with shaved hair like a man, and cursing (Romans 12:1-2; 14:13; 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1; 2 Timothy 3:1-5; I John 2:15-17; 2 John 9-11; Leviticus 19:28; I Corinthians 6:19-20). We make no apology nor are we ashamed of our conservative beliefs in many areas including music, social issues, dress, and behavior. We welcome all who come to our doors, but we give no place on our platform to honor or to hear the opinions and the views of those who do not hold to “sound doctrine” (I Timothy 1:3). With this in view, we oppose the widespread popular practice of ecumenism (getting theologically diverse groups together for the sake of fellowship, for the cause of evangelism, and for the exercise of their ministries together), and New Evangelicalism.
    Yes, that would DEFINITELY lead me to believe that they are on the LIBERAL side of the political spectrum... I mean, REALLY... would a conservative group every be caught DEAD holding these kinds of beliefs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik_blank View Post
    Strange that you are pointing the finger of book burning at liberals... Christian Church Book Burning - Oct. 2009

    Personally, I cannot think of a single U.S. liberal that supported the idea of burning books... Most of us are more interested in actually BUYING book and READING them than in using them to heat our homes...
    Right on, man. Libs recycle books! Book burning is bad for your carbon footprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by migopod View Post
    Right on, man. Libs recycle books! Book burning is bad for your carbon footprint.
    I suppose that they COULD use them for compost instead.... But that would just NOT be the same as a good 'ol bonfire with dancing and singing and celebrations for the destruction of the blasphemous materials like those new aged bibles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by migopod View Post
    Right on, man. Libs recycle books! Book burning is bad for your carbon footprint.
    Now that is a valid argument! They must have been conservatives.

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    What is ironic about Palin is that the liberal media attacks and hatred toward Palin by many on the left is what has made her a so called celebrity that will make her very wealthy and a voice that many on the right listen to. Without those attacks, McCain still would have lost and Palin would have become a has been that no one could remember.

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    You know, you're really a poster child for the idea that if you keep telling yourself something is true, it will be. You could be a self-help guru.
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    shes supposed to be at Ft Bragg this weekend - if I can drag my sexy carcass out of bed in the daylight hours I plan on going to her book signing.

    tell me what to say to her - the best line wins - ill even record and post it

    I'm def already going to tell her that I, personally, think that she is AWESOME.

    For total serious - if I get within earshot of her I am going to say.

    "Sarah Palin, baby you're awesome!"


    - word is bond.

    I'm not a Republican or Democrat and I don't give a shnizznittle snip snap slap about politics but that lady is one bad mamma jamma and I'm gonna let her know about it.
    I might even do it with a tshirt inked with

    "F-NET Loves Sarah Palin"

    hahahahhahahahha

    she is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FINE! makes me want to slap my momma

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    ha - just looked it up with my yahoo majiks

    (google is for girls and vegan chumps)

    Palin will be here on the 23rd a perfect date for such a novel indulgence in the joy of life.

    That's gem mate tree ya, Kyle.

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    At last! The inside scoop on the clothes!

    I know some of you couldn't care less about the clothing issue but I grew up on Nancy Drew mysteries and then moved down the aisle to read every single mystery book in the local library (not as impressive as it sounds -- small town).

    I like to know whodunit.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/fa...list.html?_r=1

    The stylist was interviewed in response to statements made in Palin's book.

    Palin says:
    It was a “trumped up controversy,” she writes. “I never asked the New York stylists to purchase clothes, many of the items were never worn, many others were intended for the use of other people, and in the end the wardrobe items were all returned. It certainly wasn’t true that I or my family had been on any kind of ‘big-time shopping trips.’ ”

    The NY Times Interview says:

    Ms. Kline is not, as some news reports suggested, the same Lisa Kline who owns a boutique in Los Angeles. She is not, as Ms. Palin’s book suggests, Katie Couric’s stylist; she has never met Ms. Couric. Most important, the six-figure tab for the Palin family’s clothing during the convention was not as outrageous as it seems, Ms. Kline insists, considering the scope of the job.

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    Ms. Kline is not, as some news reports suggested, the same Lisa Kline who owns a boutique in Los Angeles. She is not, as Ms. Palin’s book suggests, Katie Couric’s stylist; she has never met Ms. Couric. Most important, the six-figure tab for the Palin family’s clothing during the convention was not as outrageous as it seems, Ms. Kline insists, considering the scope of the job.

    snip

    Ms. Kline said she does not recall who asked her to expand her styling to the entire Palin family or who set up the appointment at Neiman Marcus, which later became so controversial because it undermined the candidate’s image as a populist.

    snip

    Ms. Kline says she never saw or communicated with Ms. Palin after the convention, although she prepared a “look book” for her for the campaign trail, with photos showing how to put together outfits. Ms. Kline avidly followed Ms. Palin’s appearances on television, but as soon as the politically damaging news of the designer wardrobe broke on Oct. 21, Ms. Palin stopped appearing in the clothes, Ms. Kline said.

    snip

    I note that Ms. Kline bought along an assistant and a sewing machine. Many of the outfits were altered for either stylistic or fitting reasons.
    Last edited by lindajdunn; 11-19-2009 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidX View Post

    tell me what to say to her - the best line wins - ill even record and post it
    I'd congratulate her on the success of 30 Rock, but I don't think that's what you're after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindajdunn View Post
    I know some of you couldn't care less about the clothing issue but I grew up on Nancy Drew mysteries and then moved down the aisle to read every single mystery book in the local library (not as impressive as it sounds -- small town).

    I like to know whodunit.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/fa...list.html?_r=1

    The stylist was interviewed in response to statements made in Palin's book.

    Palin says:
    It was a “trumped up controversy,” she writes. “I never asked the New York stylists to purchase clothes, many of the items were never worn, many others were intended for the use of other people, and in the end the wardrobe items were all returned. It certainly wasn’t true that I or my family had been on any kind of ‘big-time shopping trips.’ ”

    The NY Times Interview says:

    Ms. Kline is not, as some news reports suggested, the same Lisa Kline who owns a boutique in Los Angeles. She is not, as Ms. Palin’s book suggests, Katie Couric’s stylist; she has never met Ms. Couric. Most important, the six-figure tab for the Palin family’s clothing during the convention was not as outrageous as it seems, Ms. Kline insists, considering the scope of the job.

    snip

    Ms. Kline is not, as some news reports suggested, the same Lisa Kline who owns a boutique in Los Angeles. She is not, as Ms. Palin’s book suggests, Katie Couric’s stylist; she has never met Ms. Couric. Most important, the six-figure tab for the Palin family’s clothing during the convention was not as outrageous as it seems, Ms. Kline insists, considering the scope of the job.

    snip

    Ms. Kline said she does not recall who asked her to expand her styling to the entire Palin family or who set up the appointment at Neiman Marcus, which later became so controversial because it undermined the candidate’s image as a populist.

    snip

    Ms. Kline says she never saw or communicated with Ms. Palin after the convention, although she prepared a “look book” for her for the campaign trail, with photos showing how to put together outfits. Ms. Kline avidly followed Ms. Palin’s appearances on television, but as soon as the politically damaging news of the designer wardrobe broke on Oct. 21, Ms. Palin stopped appearing in the clothes, Ms. Kline said.

    snip

    I note that Ms. Kline bought along an assistant and a sewing machine. Many of the outfits were altered for either stylistic or fitting reasons.
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