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Array  Originally Posted by telkanuru The Church's understanding of the concept of separation of church and state = fail.
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Array I was so excited about this thread until I realize this is not about Pope vs. Batman. :/ 
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Array  Originally Posted by KidLazy I was so excited about this thread until I realize this is not about Pope vs. Batman. :/
*my money would be on Batman. I was really hoping to spark that idea in someone The only way to atone for being occasionally a little over-dressed is by being always absolutely over-educated. -Oscar Wilde -
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Array  Originally Posted by KidLazy I was so excited about this thread until I realize this is not about Pope vs. Batman. :/
*my money would be on Batman. Oh I don't know...I could see Benedict pointing his shepherd's crook at the B-man and blasting him with some mystical force and a battle cry of "By the power of Jehovah!!", muscles bulging under his cassock.
Later gets the crook knocked away, doffs the miter and whips out his skull cap-o-rang...or a cross as a Catholic shuriken... -
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Array  Originally Posted by Purple Fencer The Church's understanding of the concept of separation of church and state = fail.
Isn't a church attempting to influence the political area grounds from losing non-profit status? Tax code restricting political advocacy by 501(c)(3)s including religious sects doesn't restrict "issue advocacy" IIRC. Candidate endorsements and stuff like that tends to be not kosher.
Says a lot about their priorities I suppose that they'd quit helping homeless people if legal protection is extended to same-sex partners. I'm thinking that a good response from the Govt would be to in turn exclude them from partnerships with the Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives (which would of course then remove hiring policy restrictions, etc.) and possibly exclude them from any private school voucher programs.*
'Course I still firmly contend that the OFCI is a far greater threat to separation of church and state than anything the church is up to in this case.
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Reason: * this of course will never happen, since Repubs are trying to capture the catholic vote and Dems can't afford to lose them.
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Array  Originally Posted by telkanuru I was really hoping to spark that idea in someone   Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Oh I don't know...I could see Benedict pointing his shepherd's crook at the B-man and blasting him with some mystical force and a battle cry of "By the power of Jehovah!!", muscles bulging under his cassock.
Later gets the crook knocked away, doffs the miter and whips out his skull cap-o-rang...or a cross as a Catholic shuriken... Haha... I picked Batman out of all DC characters, because he has his religion and belief, but he never let them cloud his logic and judgment or affect his actions; he fight crimes with intellect, detective skills, science and technology; a truly "separation of church and state" kind of guy.
Interestingly, his is an Episcopalian. The Episcopal Church has ordained woman priests since 1979, declared that homosexuals are "children of God" and "entitled to full civil rights” since 1976, openly gay priest since 1986, and openly lesbian priest since 1991. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcop...United_States)
Take that, Pope.
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Array  Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Oh I don't know...I could see Benedict pointing his shepherd's crook at the B-man and blasting him with some mystical force and a battle cry of "By the power of Jehovah!!", muscles bulging under his cassock.
Later gets the crook knocked away, doffs the miter and whips out his skull cap-o-rang...or a cross as a Catholic shuriken... oooh, that is so sacrilegious!
I guess Marvel Comics escapes from this particular conflict, though it would be interesting to see the Church position on mixed marriages between mutants and homo sapiens. "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -
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Array  Originally Posted by jeff it would be interesting to see the Church position on mixed marriages between mutants and homo sapiens. Is that similar to the "missionary" position? "Sometimes we, as coaches, get into that dictator mode where you just tell and you don't listen and you don't try to understand them." Tom Izzo, Mich. St.
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Array  Originally Posted by Capt. Slo-mo Is that similar to the "missionary" position? I believe it usually involves children. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
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Array The Pope is a Communionist, so obviously he'd fight Captain America, not Batman. Use the Shift key, people! Keyboard manufacturers everywhere are ineffably saddened when you ignore what they made just for you! -
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Array  Originally Posted by Inquartata The Pope is a Communionist, so obviously he'd fight Captain America, not Batman. Almost right, but the pope's a Nazi 
(it's funny because it's true! suck it, Godwyn). The only way to atone for being occasionally a little over-dressed is by being always absolutely over-educated. -Oscar Wilde -
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Array Really shows what the Church's priorities are, doesn't it? The archdiocese has already started backpedaling, which underscores the bottom line: in their idiotic attempt at blackmail, the Church is foolishly starting from an unstable position. Specifically, if the Church stops bribing people with the offer of badly-needed social services, the long term result is inevitably going to be that it's going to rapidly lose relevance to people's lives. I hope the district tells the archdiocese to go ahead and hit the road if that's how little the Church really values the people it claims to be all about serving, and we can see who comes out ahead in that game. However, I think the actual result will probably be that the archdiocese will back down to some kind of halfassed face-saving sulk and start plotting something similiar to the diocese of Maine, which deliberately starved many of its parishes into shutting down, in order to accumulate the funds to successfully prevent people from being able to marry their partners.
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