All about Obama!

[Bayou Bum]

There are enough instances about Obama and his arrogance that I think we can keep a thread going for years on the issue. After all, I don't think it will end anytime soon. I love this article:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...ll-ceremonies/

[noodle]

yep, i'm sure that the reason why he didn't attend was because he was personally so arrogant that he himself felt that the ceremony was beneath him. it had nooothing to do with aaaanything else except a 1:1 decision where he was either relaxing in a day spa all day or going to the ceremony.

[davesaint]

There are enough instances about Obama and his arrogance that I think we can keep a thread going for years on the issue. After all, I don't think it will end anytime soon. I love this article:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...ll-ceremonies/

Ummmm....He is going to Ft. Hood today. It's all about priorities.


Dave

[Gav]

There are enough instances about Obama and his arrogance that I think we can keep a thread going for years on the issue. After all, I don't think it will end anytime soon. I love this article:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...ll-ceremonies/

Quoting the Telegraph. Epic fail.

[Bayou Bum]

Ummmm....He is going to Ft. Hood today. It's all about priorities.


Dave

The Berlin Wall ceremony was this past weekend, Ft. Hood is today. He decided not to go to Germany long before the Islamic Terrorist attack at Fort Hood occurred. His priorities are all about him. All of his other trips have been about him. He makes time to go to Japan and apologize for the US ending the war earlier and saving lives.

I know you have to defend him at all costs because he is perfect in your eyes, but the rest of the world sees his many flaws.

[jessicasimpson]

I know you have to defend him at all costs because he is perfect in your eyes, but the rest of the world sees his many flaws.

Honestly, are you really concerned about what the rest of the world thinks about the president?

[noodle]

The Berlin Wall ceremony was this past weekend, Ft. Hood is today. He decided not to go to Germany long before the Islamic Terrorist attack at Fort Hood occurred. His priorities are all about him. All of his other trips have been about him. He makes time to go to Japan and apologize for the US ending the war earlier and saving lives.

I know you have to defend him at all costs because he is perfect in your eyes, but the rest of the world sees his many flaws.

far from perfect in my eyes, but that last statement is amazingly ironic and cognitive dissonance at its finest.

[davesaint]

The Berlin Wall ceremony was this past weekend, Ft. Hood is today. He decided not to go to Germany long before the Islamic Terrorist attack at Fort Hood occurred. His priorities are all about him. All of his other trips have been about him. He makes time to go to Japan and apologize for the US ending the war earlier and saving lives.

I know you have to defend him at all costs because he is perfect in your eyes, but the rest of the world sees his many flaws.

Really, I don't think I have ever indicated he is perfect. He does have his flaws, but I don't really see your point about it only being about him. BTW, the ceremony was yesterday I believe, you know on the actual date of the anniversary. The shooting was on Saturday night IIRC

Dave

[Fechter1]

Oh come on, guys... BB just wants to complain about the president.

Or, as Fox News (snicker) would put it if a republican were president: He just wants to be unpatriotic.

[keith]

Oh come on, guys... BB just wants to complain about the president.

Or, as Fox News (snicker) would put it if a republican were president: He just wants to be unpatriotic.

Which makes you wonder.

Is it acceptable to burn a flag that President Obama has saluted?

As an act of patriotism of course.

[Bayou Bum]

Which makes you wonder.

Is it acceptable to burn a flag that President Obama has saluted?

As an act of patriotism of course.

Is there one?

[keith]

Is there one?

A flag that he's saluted?

It's like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure someone else will oblige.

[Bayou Bum]

I should start a poll: Will Obama make a decision on sending troops to Afghanistan during his one term in office?

[noodle]

Is there one?

fun, glen beck style questions that push forth accusations while sidestepping the need for maintaining the responsibility of making them.

i wouldn't expect any less.

next up on deck: ignoring anything addressed that doesn't agree with personal agendas/biases in order to not have to actually debate anything, concede any points, acknowledge facts/data, and/or admit mistakes/failures/fault/etc.

[Warrior Princess]

Ummm... so many things wrong with this.
1) We are a declining world power. Our influence in the world was established origionally because of loans that we gave during and after WWI and WWII, and we are no longer in a position to give out loans, we have too many of them ourselves. While yes, we are still a world military power in that we have a nuclear arsenal that could end the world multiple times, we have no idea if they work anymore (scarry, right?). Yes, we still have some influence in the world, but we were a global laughing stalk for the eight years that Bush was in office, and I'm pretty sure that you weren't complaining about it then.
2) Seriously? You're saying that dropping two atomic bombs on major cities FULL OF CIVILIANS was a good idea? Wow... Oh, and by the way, the Western Front was pretty much done at that point, and Japan wouldn't have held out very long. I get that it was a hard decision to make, and, based on the social and military norms or the time, dropping one bomb i can kind of understand, but two?
3) President Obama does have better things to do right now. Seriously, what's more important, a purely ceremonial visit or actually doing his job (which yes, I know is part of the job, but you'd probably be complaining just as much right now had he gone). It's easy to accuse someone of mixing up their priorities when you have nothing to do with the situation. I'm pretty damn sure that if the UK got rid of public health care, this reporter would be kind of upset. Besides, you want to improve our global image? Good. Then pass the health care reform bill, we're also still kind of a laughing stalk for being the only developed country without public health care, and don't tell me that it's a drain on the economy or that we shouldn't be taxed for it or that it's bad for hospitals and doctors or that patient care would be substandard. Look at other countries' systems, they're all doing just fine. Sure there are some problems and people get screwed over sometimes, but seriously, it's a lot better than what we have now. Yes, I love my health insurance providor and am not switching to the public option. I have Health Partners. Read up on them, you'll find it interesting. Also, taxes? The founding fathers that you love so much considdered not taxing people, but they knew that it's necessary for the running of a country.
4) I'm not even going to begin to address the terrorist comment except for the fact that your capitalizatoin was off. It can either be "the Islamic terrorist attack" or "the Islamic Terrorist Attack", but not "the Islamic Terrorist attack". But it really should be the first one. Not to mention the fact that it wasn't actually a terrorist attack.
NOTE: My heart goes out to the families and friends of the shooting victems and I in no way seek to discount their grief.

[erooMynohtnA]

Not putting any breaks in your posts is usually a bad idea, but since I think that will keep most people from reading it, it was probably a good idea this time.

And by the way, you're not anyone to hurl grammatical stones, Ms. English-isn't-my-first-language-how-i-lern-spell-now-durr.

[Bayou Bum]

Ummm... so many things wrong with this.
1) We are a declining world power.

Thanks to Obama!

Our influence in the world was established origionally because of loans that we gave during and after WWI and WWII, and we are no longer in a position to give out loans, we have too many of them ourselves.

There was more to becoming a world power than loaning money.

While yes, we are still a world military power in that we have a nuclear arsenal that could end the world multiple times, we have no idea if they work anymore (scarry, right?).

Why would you think they wouldn't work? It's not scary to me, I would be more afraid without a nuclear detriment.

Yes, we still have some influence in the world, but we were a global laughing stalk for the eight years that Bush was in office, and I'm pretty sure that you weren't complaining about it then.

What do you base your statement that were were a global laughing stalk under Bush? Is this your opinion? I wasn't complaining then because I know that despite his flaws he was a much better President than we would have had with either Gore or Kerry. If you want to speak of an international joke, in my opinion no President has ever been as big a fool as Obama.

2) Seriously? You're saying that dropping two atomic bombs on major cities FULL OF CIVILIANS was a good idea?

Yes

Wow... Oh, and by the way, the Western Front was pretty much done at that point, and Japan wouldn't have held out very long.

Based on what crystal ball? You are really ignorant of history aren't you. What about the fact that more people died in the battle for the small island of Okinawa than with both atomic bombs together? The casualties, both military and civilian would have been much worse in an invasion of Japan's homeland. But I suppose you would have wanted the US to just surrender to Germany and Japan in order to save lives. Peace at any cost, right

I get that it was a hard decision to make, and, based on the social and military norms or the time, dropping one bomb i can kind of understand, but two?

I don't think you understand one bomb. Maybe if Japan had surrendered after the first bomb we wouldn't have had to use the second. Wow, maybe if Japan hadn't started the war we wouldn't have had to drop either.

3) President Obama does have better things to do right now.

Like play golf, pick up his Nobel Peace Prize, apologize for the US, spend trillions that we don't have, attack Fox News for hurting his feelings, campaign for reelection, etc.

Seriously, what's more important, a purely ceremonial visit or actually doing his job (which yes, I know is part of the job, but you'd probably be complaining just as much right now had he gone). It's easy to accuse someone of mixing up their priorities when you have nothing to do with the situation. I'm pretty damn sure that if the UK got rid of public health care, this reporter would be kind of upset. Besides, you want to improve our global image? Good.

Actually, I don't really care that much about our global image. We have always been our own country and living by our own rules. That shouldn't change.

Then pass the health care reform bill, we're also still kind of a laughing stalk for being the only developed country without public health care, and don't tell me that it's a drain on the economy or that we shouldn't be taxed for it or that it's bad for hospitals and doctors or that patient care would be substandard. Look at other countries' systems, they're all doing just fine. Sure there are some problems and people get screwed over sometimes, but seriously, it's a lot better than what we have now. Yes, I love my health insurance providor and am not switching to the public option. I have Health Partners. Read up on them, you'll find it interesting. Also, taxes? The founding fathers that you love so much considdered not taxing people, but they knew that it's necessary for the running of a country.

You are obviously not a leader but a follower, always doing what everyone else is doing. Yes, we can improve our health care system (see HR 3400), but socialized medicine is not an improvement. A good article on the benefits and costs of socialized healthcare:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...e-health_N.htm

4) I'm not even going to begin to address the terrorist comment except for the fact that your capitalizatoin was off. It can either be "the Islamic terrorist attack" or "the Islamic Terrorist Attack", but not "the Islamic Terrorist attack". But it really should be the first one. Not to mention the fact that it wasn't actually a terrorist attack.

Are you saying there is no such thing as an Islamic Terrorist? For one, it is just grammar and I would hope you would have a better argument if you were in disagreement. What is your definition of a terrorist attack anyway? You like to consider other domestic mass killings as terrorist attacks when it suits your purpose, why not this one?

[Bayou Bum]

Obama off to Asia on another apology tour!

[Bayou Bum]

Why is Obama the only world leader to bow to the Emperor of Japan? Obama is proof to the world how stupid Americans really are

[jessicasimpson]

Why is Obama the only world leader to bow to the Emperor of Japan? Obama is proof to the world how stupid Americans really are

Bowing is a common greeting in Japan. You are proof to the world how stupid Americans are.