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    The Bill is passed.....

    .....now onto the Senate.

    Yay for healthcare! Not too syked about taxing those who choose to opt out though. Amendment much?
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    And since when did the Democratic Party--with majorities in the House and Senate, plus the Presidency--become Spineless Sams on the issue of allowing women to purchase a health care plan that covers legal procedures like abortion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Slo-mo View Post
    And since when did the Democratic Party--with majorities in the House and Senate, plus the Presidency--become Spineless Sams on the issue of allowing women to purchase a health care plan that covers legal procedures like abortion?
    Since it probably wouldn't passed otherwise. it can always be fixed later, but not if it doesn't pass in the first place.
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    Nancy Pelosi was so excited she almost blinked. ( Yes, I stole that. )

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    I suggest they add an amendment to ban coverage for male reproductive health issues as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindajdunn View Post
    I suggest they add an amendment to ban coverage for male reproductive health issues as well.
    Damn straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foibles View Post
    Damn straight.
    I don't want my tax dollars funding the tying of my neighbor’s tubes!
    I don't want to pay for my neighbor's viagra. Let him do it the old fashioned way. California poppy, kava and fresh oats. Fresh oats, nettle leaves and seaweed. Ginkgo. Whatever. But close the curtains, please.

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    Fox News Reports: Millions of Grannies Flee U.S. as Death Panels Loom

    Glenn Beck: "Run For Your Lives"

    WASHINGTON - With the establishment of government-mandated death panels just days away, grandmothers began fleeing the United States in record numbers today, reports Fox News.

    "I am never one to yell ‘Fire' in a crowded theater," said Fox News host Glenn Beck. "But run for your lives!"

    Across the country, slow-moving caravans of 1980s-era Cadillacs with turn signals blinking were making the torturous journey to the Canadian border, their back seats laden with cats, knitting projects, and bottles of Ensure.

    Fox News may have set off the mass exodus by warning grannies that if they did not flee quickly enough they would face government-mandated organ harvesting.

    Elsewhere, anti-healthcare protesters objected to the language of the House bill, saying there were too many polysyllabic words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thereom4 View Post
    .....now onto the Senate.

    Yay for healthcare! Not too syked about taxing those who choose to opt out though. Amendment much?
    Its not coming out of the senate looking like it does now that's for sure..if at all. Thank Pelosi when it fails.

    Dont pop the campaign (bought at taxpayers expense) just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Its not coming out of the senate looking like it does now that's for sure..if at all. Thank Pelosi when it fails.

    Dont pop the campaign (bought at taxpayers expense) just yet.
    Something will get passed in 2010. When it does, I'll be drinking sparkling apple cider. I'll save you some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thereom4 View Post
    Something will get passed in 2010. When it does, I'll be drinking sparkling apple cider. I'll save you some.
    Something? Like, who cares what it is or what's in those 1900+ pages, as long as something is passed your happy?

    Why am I not surprised by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    glenn beck: "run for your lives"

    washington - with the establishment of government-mandated death panels just days away, grandmothers began fleeing the united states in record numbers today, reports fox news.

    "i am never one to yell ‘fire' in a crowded theater," said fox news host glenn beck. "but run for your lives!"

    across the country, slow-moving caravans of 1980s-era cadillacs with turn signals blinking were making the torturous journey to the canadian border, their back seats laden with cats, knitting projects, and bottles of ensure.

    Fox news may have set off the mass exodus by warning grannies that if they did not flee quickly enough they would face government-mandated organ harvesting.

    Elsewhere, anti-healthcare protesters objected to the language of the house bill, saying there were too many polysyllabic words.
    lmfao!!!!!!

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    Here is my sugestion for the public option:
    Make the public option carry a $5000 deductible. If people will have to pay up front, they will not be as likely to abuse it. This will also get them more involved in their daily healh decitions. Also, doctors will be happy because they will be getting cash up front, and not having to deal with insurance company delays. I fell like this would stop healthcare bankrupcy without just handing everything out for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Glenn Beck: "Run For Your Lives"

    WASHINGTON - With the establishment of government-mandated death panels just days away, grandmothers began fleeing the United States in record numbers today, reports Fox News.

    "I am never one to yell ‘Fire' in a crowded theater," said Fox News host Glenn Beck. "But run for your lives!"

    Across the country, slow-moving caravans of 1980s-era Cadillacs with turn signals blinking were making the torturous journey to the Canadian border, their back seats laden with cats, knitting projects, and bottles of Ensure.

    Fox News may have set off the mass exodus by warning grannies that if they did not flee quickly enough they would face government-mandated organ harvesting.

    Elsewhere, anti-healthcare protesters objected to the language of the House bill, saying there were too many polysyllabic words.
    Hahaha! Wow, what a riot! What a knee slapper. Since all good humor is rooted in truth, lets take a look....

    Imagine those stupid, mindless old people that cant think for themselves. What a bunch of morons. Sure is some truth to this, no?

    And those that dont agree with the current Pelosi-care "plan"(?), well, obviously their just to stupid to get it. Nevermind big words. Truth to this too, no?

    You liberals sure are a pompous-a$$ lot, arent you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesaint View Post
    lmfao!!!!!!
    I'd suggest you start to plan now to have it reattached. You may be waking around a$$-less for a while if this thing passes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    You liberals sure are a pompous-a$$ lot, arent you?
    You conservatives sure are humor-impaired.

    And touchy, too. This, coming from a guy is a clown-faced rendition of Obama's face. Oh, so you think what you have is funny, but not what somebody else does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    You conservatives sure are humor-impaired.

    And touchy, too. This, coming from a guy is a clown-faced rendition of Obama's face. Oh, so you think what you have is funny, but not what somebody else does.
    I guess if you think laughing at old people is funny. Or people that may not be as educated as you are. Sure. Whatever rocks your world.

    I thought liberals were supposed to be the caring, tolerant ones?

    What I have is not meant to be funny. Its creepy. And annoys liberals.
    Last edited by Slim; 11-09-2009 at 03:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    What I have is not meant to be funny. Its creepy. And annoys liberals.
    You're admit you're creepy and annoy liberals? Fine summary, but I would cast my net wider if I were you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    You're admit you're creepy and annoy liberals? Fine summary, but I would cast my net wider if I were you.
    Ahaha. Good one. I stepped into that one. I'll even rep you for that.

    But I was referring to the avatar as creepy, which you clearly know. And I'm fine with annoying liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessicasimpson View Post
    Here is my sugestion for the public option:
    Make the public option carry a $5000 deductible. If people will have to pay up front, they will not be as likely to abuse it. This will also get them more involved in their daily healh decitions. Also, doctors will be happy because they will be getting cash up front, and not having to deal with insurance company delays. I fell like this would stop healthcare bankrupcy without just handing everything out for free.
    My issue with that is not so much the high deductible, but the payment to providers up to that point. I had a kidney stone hit a few weeks ago....and since my wife lost her job in July, I have no coverage....so that almost $2000 bill is on my head. Fortunately, the hospital is giving a discount and payment plan, but it's still a struggle to make those payment along with everything else.

    Contrast that with the stone I had in 03 where I only paid a small copayment ($50, I think), on a bill that topped $8000 (I was kept overnight at that time).

    God forbid I get into a bad car wreck and spend some time in a coma or need extensive care....

    I have no problem paying for insurance by whatever means works well for me...be it a private insurer or one administered by the government....I just want something that is affordable and will do the job when I need it.

    I could always look into the VA for some of my care, since I'm a vet, but Sandy would not be covered, as I did not retire from the military. Right now her asthma inhalers cost her about $150 a month...up from $30 per month when she had coverage.

    Fortunately, the endometrial ablation she got when she HAD full coverage (cauterizing her uterus to eliminate the VERY heavy monthly bleeding....she was anemic) solved a LOT of her breathing problems (having enough blood to carry oxygen will do that), but had she not been able to get the procedure, she'd be in a VERY bad way right now....emergency room trips aren't cheap.
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