Change of foils too much???

[yearsofwisdom]

Hey guys, i only have one foil that i have finally attuned my self too after using BF white foils before, the vniti max. I like the feel now and im accustomed to its weight, however its my only foil and i need another 1/2 for tournaments. I was considering getting the AF FIE but i have no idea about its durability and feel now that its apparently different; its bronze colored now. I was wondering if i switched to the AF FIE for tournaments or whatever and use the vniti for practice since its a tank. Would this be a too big of a change or should i just order another vniti max?

[catwood1]

Generally try and have all of your weapons be as similar as possible. If you're practicing with a heavy blade, and competing with a light one, you will be wild. If you practice with a light blade and compete with a heavy one, you'll be slow.

Practice like you compete...

[foibles]

I like the feel now and im accustomed to its weight,

If you like it, get another one, pommel-nut!

[yearsofwisdom]

Mmmm... just tossing this idea up, if i were to keep using vnitis for another year or two would the switch back to a BF white be sort of easy since its a typically heavy blade and the two are similar?

[catwood1]

I would say don't worry about the transition. Find a blade that you like, use it consistently for both training and competing.

[erooMynohtnA]

You're better off having consistency throughout your weapons. It's better if you practice with the same weapons you compete with. If you have to switch to a blade that's different in the middle of a tournament it can also cause a lot of problems. I think it's less a technical issue in most cases than a psychological one.

[yearsofwisdom]

well there is a reason that i am using a vniti in the first place, durability. i chewed through a bf white somehow in 2 months, a combination of extremely heavy touches and bad distance. in a year or two, hopefully i will have that somewhat remedied so i won't break foils as often and so i can switch back to a bf. but from the feedback i'm getting now, stick with vniti since i'm basically used to it?

[erooMynohtnA]

No one can make that decision for you. You have to analyze the costs and benefits of each and decide yourself.

[Mergs]

You're better off having consistency throughout your weapons.

It also helps when you are trying to work on them if the parts are interchangable and are of the same type. Thank you Mr. Ford.

[RkfdFencer]

... extremely heavy touches and bad distance. in a year or two, hopefully i will have that somewhat remedied ...

Be consistent now and re-evaluate in a year or two? A lot can change in two years and you may end up with diferent technique and preferences in blade characteristics.

[Insipiens]

then again, if you get used to a heavier, more rigid Vniti blade you may get into the habit of hitting harder than you need to because you have to get used to a heavier blade that requires more force and you can get away with it.
Maybe using the less rigid BF blades would mean you would be forced by the potential cost to develop a less heavy-hitting style which might also be easier if you have a slightly lighter blade.

[Rockstar44]

I like the feel now and im accustomed to its weight, however its my only foil and i need another 1/2 for tournaments.

I don't think that you will be allowed to fence with one half of a foil.

[the ancient one]

I try hard to keep my foils within a narrow range of "feel", but I do keep two special foils at hand.

One is for the opponents who charge onto my point and tend to severely distort or break the blade.

Another is a #3 Leon Paul ...super fast for complex blade actions and infighting.

[Purple Fencer]

You're better off having consistency throughout your weapons.

Not always....I had one particularly whippy blade that I used on lefties, because at the time the ONLY hit I could get was a circle 6/flick to the shoudler...which I could not pull off with the stiffer blades I preferred for other opponents.

It's kinda like golf clubs....you have to pick the right one for the job....you can't drive of the tee with a putter.

[Mergs]

It's kinda like golf clubs....you have to pick the right one for the job....you can't drive of the tee with a putter.

Yeah, you can! The ball just doesn't go as far! Unless your Tiger or John Daly!

or you're playing putt-putt! ;-)

[catwood1]

Not always....I had one particularly whippy blade that I used on lefties, because at the time the ONLY hit I could get was a circle 6/flick to the shoudler...which I could not pull off with the stiffer blades I preferred for other opponents.

It's kinda like golf clubs....you have to pick the right one for the job....you can't drive of the tee with a putter.

But if you're forced to pick 1 club and play 9 holes with JUST that, which one are you picking? I think that is far more applicable to a fencing bout...

(On a side note, I once shot a 39 on 9 holes with just a 7 iron. I miss golf...)

[Purple Fencer]

But if you're forced to pick 1 club and play 9 holes with JUST that, which one are you picking? I think that is far more applicable to a fencing bout...

(On a side note, I once shot a 39 on 9 holes with just a 7 iron. I miss golf...)

Got you beat....I once hit a moving car with my 2st shot off the fairway...going with his direction of travel!

I had the worst slice in the world.

[fatfencer]

they are a good blade.

BF whites are lighter and stiffer generally.. and more expensive.

vnitis can be light and if they are and are stiff without a weak foible... thats a holy grail vniti.

I have a couple.

I still usually use whites or blues.