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The "NAC" What is this elusive object? What does it mean for a fencer? Should I go?
Be prepared for Follow-up questions In Flanders fields the poppies grow - Between the crosses, row on row, - That mark our place, and in the sky, - The larks, still bravely singing, fly, - Scarce heard amid the guns below. ~John McCrae
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NAC = north american cup/circuit.
its a large national event. for division 1, it is one method of procuring national points.
if you have the means to do so, its a good choice to attend them. especially the div2/3s if they're your level, because it means you get to fence a variety of fencers from around the country and get to really measure yourself up against the competition on a national level.
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 Originally Posted by noodle  NAC = north american cup/circuit.
its a large national event. for division 1, it is one method of procuring national points.
if you have the means to do so, its a good choice to attend them. especially the div2/3s if they're your level, because it means you get to fence a variety of fencers from around the country and get to really measure yourself up against the competition on a national level. Watch out for flaming bagels and people juiced up on Red Bull Cola. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WON'T YOU BUY MY TACTICAL WHEEL!!!????
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper Watch out for flaming bagels and people juiced up on Red Bull Cola. i'm not sure how you live if this isn't already top priority in daily life
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Ok, so what's the difference between Div 2/3 and Juniors? Why are they separate? I thought Divs were a division within Junior? In Flanders fields the poppies grow - Between the crosses, row on row, - That mark our place, and in the sky, - The larks, still bravely singing, fly, - Scarce heard amid the guns below. ~John McCrae
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Originally Posted by Wetmelon Ok, so what's the difference between Div 2/3 and Juniors? Why are they separate? I thought Divs were a division within Junior? no.
they're all separate events.
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Div I is C or higher. Div II is C or lower. Div III is D or lower. Junior is 19 or younger. Cadet is 16 or younger. Senior is open to any age group. Veteran is 40 or older.
There is obviously overlap among these divisions.
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Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA Div I is C or higher. Div II is C or lower. Div III is D or lower. Junior is 19 or younger. Cadet is 16 or younger. Senior is open to any age group. Veteran is 40 or older.
There is obviously overlap among these divisions. It is better to use birth years to determine eligibility. (For example, as of today there are 19 year olds born in 1990 and 1989.)
Birth Years for 2009-10 season.
(The month or day of your birth doesn't matter.)
Y10 - 1999 - 2002
Y12 - 1997 - 2000
Y14 - 1995 - 1998
Cadet 1993 - 1996
Junior 1990 - 1996
Opens/Div I/II/III - 1996 or earlier
Div I - C and above
Div II - C and below
Div III - D and below
Last edited by teacup; 10-27-2009 at 01:15 AM.
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Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA Div I is C or higher. Div II is C or lower. Div III is D or lower. Junior is 19 or younger. Cadet is 16 or younger. Senior is open to any age group. Veteran is 40 or older.
There is obviously overlap among these divisions. More accurately, Junior is Under 20 as of January 1 of the current competitive season while Cadet is Under 17 as of Jan 1 of the current competitive season. Summer nationals are U19 and U16 respectively but if you remember that they mark the beginning of a new season (wrt to points calculations) it all works out. I now dangle to the left....my tassle. Get your minds out of the gutter.
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Ok, so is it possible to enter more than one of these groups in a competition? In Flanders fields the poppies grow - Between the crosses, row on row, - That mark our place, and in the sky, - The larks, still bravely singing, fly, - Scarce heard amid the guns below. ~John McCrae
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Ok, so is it possible to enter more than one of these groups in a competition?
Depending on ranking, age, and schedule. In that order.
DIV II,III: You don't have to have a ranking to enter these events. Sometimes, however, you will need to attend a smaller qualifier in order to qualify for these events in a bigger tournament, such as Summer Nationals.
As erooMynohtnA said, you have to have at least a "C" ranking to attend a DIV I
You can usually enter any event within a tournament that you want, so long as they don't overlap time-wise. For any large tournament, however, that'll restrict you to one event per day, especially if you last a while.
Rankings: You gain rankings by placing high enough at a large enough tournament. Depending on the size and the rankings of your fellow fencers within an event, (I don't have the link to the table on USFA that shows this, can someone provide it?) you can gain a national ranking that places you from "A" to "U", or unrated. It goes A B C D E U. You will also be assigned a number after your letter ranking, representing the year you earned that ranking, such as C09, meaning a "C" was gained in the year 2009. I believe rankings expire after 3 years. You can renew your ranking, from say a C07 to a C09.
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