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 Originally Posted by pillow The NCAA will eventually understand that fencing for your club at a USFA event is not like you are changing teams to fence for another college, nor are you fencing professionally for money, and all NCAA fencers will be granted a waiver to fence USFA team events. It's just a matter of time. What on earth gives you that idea?
Fencing follows the same compliance rules that are designed to prevent multi-million-dollar corruption in the big sports like football and basketball. What makes you think the NCAA has any interest in making fencing a special case? If they had any inclination to do so, they would have done it a long time ago. "There's this kind of adrenaline rush when you really create something. I mean, why do you think Albert Einstein looked like that?" - Robin Williams -
 Originally Posted by AllezCat What on earth gives you that idea?
Fencing follows the same compliance rules that are designed to prevent multi-million-dollar corruption in the big sports like football and basketball. What makes you think the NCAA has any interest in making fencing a special case? If they had any inclination to do so, they would have done it a long time ago. I think the problem is getting the NCAA to take a position either way. Track athletes are allowed to participate in outside relay teams.
IMO, the NCAA will only take a position when a fencer participates in an outside team event and someone protests their participation in a subsequent NCAA event. If the NCAA declares the athlete ineligible, they will file a protest and the NCAA will be forced to explain why track relay teams and fencing relay teams are different. That test case will be the precedent that compliance officers follow, until then they are going off of the worst case scenario. The only thing in the way is finding an athlete willing to risk being declared ineligible. -
 Originally Posted by AllezCat What on earth gives you that idea?
Fencing follows the same compliance rules that are designed to prevent multi-million-dollar corruption in the big sports like football and basketball. What makes you think the NCAA has any interest in making fencing a special case? If they had any inclination to do so, they would have done it a long time ago. What gave me that idea is having had conversations with NCAA compliance officers at universities, as well as discussions with the NCAA itself. You shouldn't be so pessimistic. Appropriate communication between the leaders of the USFA and the NCAA will resolve the issue. -
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Array  Originally Posted by pillow What gave me that idea is having had conversations with NCAA compliance officers at universities, as well as discussions with the NCAA itself. You shouldn't be so pessimistic. Appropriate communication between the leaders of the USFA and the NCAA will resolve the issue. If you've had such productive conversations with the NCAA, why don't you share with us what they said? Did they give a clear and concise answer regarding eligibility to fence in team events?
If you've had more success contacting the NCAA than the USFA has, why don't you put the NCAA people you spoke with in touch with the USFA?
Now we're getting somewhere! That is, unless you're overstating how much contact you've had with people at the NCAA who can affect policy.
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Well, there are lot more ME fencers willing to miss more school days than I thought there would be.
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 Originally Posted by teacup Well, there are lot more ME fencers willing to miss more school days than I thought there would be.
31 Jr ME teams for JO's There are a lot of high schools that still take a winter break week, especially in the NE. It is generally this week.
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