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Peach · 10-30-2002, 09:14 PM

Tonight's weird touch--Philistine & I are bouting, and I make a false action and step in with sabre blade low, expecting him to step away, but he steps in . . .

. . . and the end of my blade is laced neatly through the shoelaces of his front foot.

sabreur · 10-31-2002, 02:42 AM

Somewhat in the line of Delia's story:

I've seen, and participated in, non-touches in sabre where one fencer comes forward with the blade low (point nearly on the strip), and the other fencer lunges and steps on the blade. Particularly annoying if you're the guy with the low blade and the other guy gets a touch....

Regards, MR

Peach · 10-31-2002, 06:32 AM

I call that "parry foot" and have both received and given it.

Inquartata · 10-31-2002, 08:10 PM

I still love the "Master's Parry"---your opponent begins a head cut or attempt to prise de fer ( or a coupe or flick in foil or epee ) and his blade comes down square on your point. Even better when the points of two foils or epees collide...

BarryTice · 11-01-2002, 05:52 PM

I tend to keep my epee springs stronger than I should -- mostly because I'm too cheap to keep lots of weapons on hand, and often too busy helping with the tournament between bouts to verify that my springs will still pass the weight tests.

With that in mine, I've had several bouts (practice, mostly) where tip-to-tip epee contact has registered as a hit for my opponent but not for me, as his/her tip had gone all the way back before mine had moved, and the touch was light and short enough to not ever get my tip pressed.

I've yet to have it score against me, though.

-- b.r.t.

D'Artagnan1673 · 11-02-2002, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Inquartata
I still love the "Master's Parry"---your opponent begins a head cut or attempt to prise de fer ( or a coupe or flick in foil or epee ) and his blade comes down square on your point. Even better when the points of two foils or epees collide...

I had that happen in the championship bout back in May. It was quite amusing. I have since done that intentionally on several occasions to rattle someone in a club bout.

Flicking Noob · 11-18-2002, 02:32 PM

lol, well, this one time, i wuz boutin with this guy who did nothing but straight fleche, i guess this counts for strangest bout ever too, but as soon as the director calls fence, he starts fleching towards me slowly, never stopping, well, he gets me to 6-0 before i go o ****, better do something, i tried sum disengages but he juss counterparries, all i could do wuz simuls. Finally i got mad, chek this, he started his lil gay fleche, and i RAN like crazy towards me, I wuz going micheal johnson on his ***, and iono how i did this but i slid half my body under his legs (baseball style) cuz he jumped and tried to get me from high up, i got under his legs, and did a crazy wide flick on the back of his head (i tried to get the back i rely did! =P) the director wuz like OMG WAT DO I DO, and the dudes head wuz fukin bleedin too, the director gave me a BLACK CARD LOL, good thing it was a non-credential bout.

Beat that!

edew · 11-18-2002, 02:55 PM

troll troll troll troll troll...

Purple Fencer · 11-18-2002, 04:53 PM

Speaking of which...at the Couturier Sabre yesterday, Steve Toth (who hit the big 5-0 the previous day...and STILL looks younger than Donald Benge (but then again, GOD is younger than "The Benge")) was in my pool, fencing James Lukens (I think... Inquartata might remember, he was in my pool also). They both make a head attack...thwak...Steve turns around and starts walking back to his engarde line...with his mask cord wrapped firmly around James' sabre! Looked like Steve was trolling for a fencer (He followed me home...can I keep him?)! All the while we're yelling at him to stand still, but he doesn;t hear it and continued to tow James behind him!

*sigh* I've missed that stuff. 'Course, I broke a blade on Liz Enochs' head -- got the touch, tho, so the blade died with honor...Russian blade, so we all KNOW where it broke!

Somehow I THINK I know where to get a replacement blade for free!

epeemike81 · 11-18-2002, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Flicking Noob
lol, well, this one time, i wuz boutin with this guy who did nothing but straight fleche, i guess this counts for strangest bout ever too, but as soon as the director calls fence, he starts fleching towards me slowly, never stopping, well, he gets me to 6-0 before i go o ****, better do something, i tried sum disengages but he juss counterparries, all i could do wuz simuls. Finally i got mad, chek this, he started his lil gay fleche, and i RAN like crazy towards me, I wuz going micheal johnson on his ***, and iono how i did this but i slid half my body under his legs (baseball style) cuz he jumped and tried to get me from high up, i got under his legs, and did a crazy wide flick on the back of his head (i tried to get the back i rely did! =P) the director wuz like OMG WAT DO I DO, and the dudes head wuz fukin bleedin too, the director gave me a BLACK CARD LOL, good thing it was a non-credential bout.

So let me get this straight: Your opponent hit you REPEATEDLY with the same action, and rather than try to adapt, you opted for brutality?? oh, yeah, I can see you have a BIG future in this sport.

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Beat that!

nope. Sounds like you are the expert on beatings. I hope you're very proud.

-m

Flicking Noob · 11-18-2002, 06:12 PM

...first of all, as i stated, NOTHING was working, and besides, i got mad, because the same tactic was being used repeatingly, and the move i did was suppose to be a crouch flick, but i ended up beneath him and if ur in my position do u just lay there waiting for a halt? generally, someone would try a flick to the back! This thread is "Unusual Touches" and that was an unusual one, not necessarily the way I always fence

KShan5[PrFC] · 11-18-2002, 09:58 PM

I have a story that relates to that in my own sorta messed up world, although not as brutal.

At Junior Sectionals last year my friend was fencing one of his pool bouts. He had just "perfected" his flunge so he wanted to try it out. He used it repetedly in his forst two pool bouts and won. During his third bout the opponent caught on. My friend would flunge, oppnent would judt kepp backing up, but my friend would redouble the second he landed. Every time he redoubled he leaned forward just a bit more. He went althoght the way down the strip like this. The opponent finally jumped in-out and my friend took the bate. He did not realize how far forward he was leaning. He flunged right non his face, one of the funnniest thigns I have ever seen. I don't remember if he got the touch or not, I just remembered almost crying because of how great it was. It was a full face plant, I have never seen it since.

jkormann · 11-19-2002, 11:43 AM

In an SCA practice, I was fencing a woman who used exclusivly foil. In this bout I opted for a dagger (6-7 inches in length). She'd attack, I'd parry with the dagger, step in and make a cut on her neck. Took her 5 'touches' to adjust her attacks. She finally started skewering me.

FHPyro4L · 11-22-2002, 05:49 PM

Hmmm... In practice, because my hair is so god awfully long (tho i'll always put it up or tuck it into my jacket), the opposing person would always to a flick to my back and end up pulling my hair out, leaving their foil dangling from me like an ugly earring...

Saber-Psycho · 11-25-2002, 03:17 PM

I was fencing a saber bout, I did a jump lunge, and this persons blade got stuck in the bottom of my shoe. It almost hit my foot

Yikes!

TheOnlyPorthos · 11-25-2002, 04:03 PM

OK, here is a good one for you. I was fencing a saber bout against a smaller opponent; I came overhead, hoping to trap her blade against her mask and close her out. She comes in low, almost crouching to the ground, and takes a really strong five parry, snapping my blade off at the tang.
This would occur normally enough, but the strange part about this one is the fact that my blade went spinning into the air, and hit the director, who happened to be my sister, in the face. The blade was spinning at a very high RPM, and as luck would have it, horizontally. It hit her in the bridge of the nose, and gave her two black eyes. Needless to say, she was lucky that it hit her with the flat, going that fast it could have easily put her eye out, or a hole in her head if it hit with the broken end.

Needless to say, she beat on me..

sabrepoet · 11-26-2002, 10:37 PM

prise de fer feint attack.... all in the middle of a flunge... against oiuyt

Inquartata · 11-26-2002, 11:43 PM

Heh heh...I'll bet "oiuyt" was the sound you made doing it, too!

Falling Cow · 12-04-2002, 12:02 AM

A guy from my club, Wil, was fencing in the semi-finals when he started chasing down his opponent. His opponent was just able to maintain distance. As Wil's charge was winding down his opponent lost balance. Wil wasn't able to take advantage of it, but right after his opponent lost balance he re-enacted his near fall, just making fun of himself. Well, the ref never called halt so Wil ran in and hit the guy as he was making fun of himself. The entire gym stopped dead of a second, then everyone started to laugh. As Wil said later, "It was worth coming to the tournament just for that point."