35 percent of NJ conservative voters think Obama may be the Anti-Christ

[Slim]

I just love how so called liberals always assume all evil emanates from the Republican Party. While it wasn't a Muslim extremist that blew up the government building in Oklahoma City, Timothy McVeigh was a registered Democrat and claimed to be agnostic. And Kaczynski was an assistant professor at Berkley, the liberal capital of the world, with ties to the Nationalist Socialist Party. Maybe the real threat to society is agnostic democrats!

Excellent point. And the Weather Underground, one of the most notorious homegrown terrorist groups was co-founded by a radical left winger, Bill Ayers.

Who just coincidentally happens to be one of Obama's political mentors and contributors.

[keith]

Excellent point. And the Weather Underground, one of the most notorious homegrown terrorist groups was co-founded by a radical left winger, Bill Ayers.

Who just coincidentally happens to be one of Obama's political mentors and contributors.

So no true American would kill other Americans?

Kinda gives away who you are willing to count as Americans doesn't it.

[jessicasimpson]

Maybe the real threat to society is agnostic democrats!

I will agree this is the real threat to your view of how society should be. If I am correct in assuming that in your view, the goverment should only provide firemen, police, military, prisons, and roads. Nothing else, because you just want you and your property protected. You got yours, so screw everyone else.

[fatfencer]

Was just watching the History Channel and they noted that some uberpower within White-dom was a huge influence on Tim and why he blew up the OKlahoma bldg.

So Im sure that was more important to him than partisanism.

[migopod]

Excellent point. And the Weather Underground, one of the most notorious homegrown terrorist groups was co-founded by a radical left winger, Bill Ayers.

Who just coincidentally happens to be one of Obama's political mentors and contributors.

On a related note, I bought a smoothie from Karleton Armstrong a couple of times.

[GypsyScot]

While it wasn't a Muslim extremist that blew up the government building in Oklahoma City, Timothy McVeigh was a registered Democrat and claimed to be agnostic.

Hey listen real quick, I don't see parties as good or evil only people and their intentions. The one think I dislike most about the internet is misinformation. McVeigh was a registered Republican that identified as a libertarian in prison. He was a member of the NRA.

Nothing wrong with all that, it's like I described my father.

[Hauptman]

Excellent point. And the Weather Underground, one of the most notorious homegrown terrorist groups was co-founded by a radical left winger, Bill Ayers.

Who just coincidentally happens to be one of Obama's political mentors and contributors.

Wrong again. It was not an excellent point; it was a complete strawman.

My point was that we do have to watch out for domestic terrorists, and not be obsessed only with Muslim extremists from overseas. At no point did I attack Republicans in the post that BB replied to.

But you just go on with your irrational anti-Liberal cheerleading, Slim.

[Slim]

Wrong again. It was not an excellent point; it was a complete strawman.

My point was that we do have to watch out for domestic terrorists, and not be obsessed only with Muslim extremists from overseas. At no point did I attack Republicans in the post that BB replied to.

But you just go on with your irrational anti-Liberal cheerleading, Slim.

Can you please take a little time and understand where and when to use the term "strawman"? I think you might be relying on it a bit too much. You dont have to use it in every post. Just saying.

[Slim]

So no true American would kill other Americans?

Kinda gives away who you are willing to count as Americans doesn't it.

How you got to this from what I posted really must have been an interesting little journey in your mind. I'm sure you traveled across plenty of wide open spaces to get here.

[Philistine]

Can you please take a little time and understand where and when to use the term "strawman"? I think you might be relying on it a bit too much. You dont have to use it in every post. Just saying.

Responding to an argument that wasn't actually made.

How was that not a strawman argument?

--Philistine

[jessicasimpson]

Can you please take a little time and understand where and when to use the term "strawman"? I think you might be relying on it a bit too much. You dont have to use it in every post. Just saying.

Can you please take a little time and understand where and when to use the term "liberal"? I think you might be relying on it a bit too much. You dont have to use it in every post. Just saying.

[keith]

How you got to this from what I posted really must have been an interesting little journey in your mind. I'm sure you traveled across plenty of wide open spaces to get here.

Nah simple logical progression.

You are quite free to slander by association, nothing wrong with it, perfectly good politics. Take observation 1 add observation 2 and hey presto one cheap shot. Just don't be to surprised when people use it to make inferences as to your good character .

[Purple Fencer]

Nah simple logical progression.

You are quite free to slander by association, nothing wrong with it, perfectly good politics. Take observation 1 add observation 2 and hey presto one cheap shot. Just don't be to surprised when people use it to make inferences as to your good character .

His WHAT??

[keith]

His WHAT??

You must remember that Slim gets very upset when anyone, casts any aspersion on his views of any group which one might assume, from his postings, he holds a low opinion of.

Except liberals of course. Of all colours, nations, creeds, religions and sexual orientations one supposes.

No true American .

[jessicasimpson]

You must remember that Slim gets very upset when anyone, casts any aspersion on his views of any group which one might assume, from his postings, he holds a low opinion of.

Except liberals of course. Of all colours, nations, creeds, religions and sexual orientations one supposes.

No true American .

You are exactly right. As soon as I speculated that Slim was in fact a smart Liberal just acting like a stupid conservative, I went straight to his ignore list

[Hauptman]

Can you please take a little time and understand where and when to use the term "strawman"? I think you might be relying on it a bit too much. You dont have to use it in every post. Just saying.

Could you actually take the time to look up what a strawman is? I did.

It's not my fault you keep using the same fallacy over and over again.

[Bayou Bum]

Hmmmm.... did I miss something? Where exactly did I say anything about Republican terrorists, or blame Republicans in any way?

Feeling a little guilty about anything, BB? That's some great Freudian activity going on there.

My apologies. You didn't mention republican terrorists. I still cannot forget the post someone made a long time ago stating they were more afraid of christian right wing extremist than muslim extremist terrorists. You are right though, it wasn't Muslims that were responsible for those domestic bombings, it was mostly left wing extremists. Who should I be more afraid of?

[keith]

You are right though, it wasn't Muslims that were responsible for those domestic bombings, it was mostly left wing extremists. Who should I be more afraid of?

Well, personally, I'm absolutely terrified of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

[Philistine]

{snip} it wasn't Muslims that were responsible for those domestic bombings, it was mostly left wing extremists. Who should I be more afraid of?

McVeigh wasn't a registered Democrat. (That was his father). He was registered Republican. His beliefs, however, were quite a bit out of the Republican mainstream to say the least...,

Calling the Unabomber left-wing because he taught at Berkley (and math, that hotbed of liberal subjects) in the 60's--and, you know, Berkley is a liberal school--has got to be about the weakest argument I've seen in a long time.

There are a number of "left wing" domestic terrorist groups conducitng various levels of violence and property crime, there are a number of "right wing" domestic terrorist groups doing the same. Neither are at all reflective of the general views of either the left or the right.

--Philistine

[Hauptman]

My apologies. You didn't mention republican terrorists. I still cannot forget the post someone made a long time ago stating they were more afraid of christian right wing extremist than muslim extremist terrorists. You are right though, it wasn't Muslims that were responsible for those domestic bombings, it was mostly left wing extremists. Who should I be more afraid of?

Can you hear me sigh from where you are, BB?

Can you get off of your partisan "I hate liberals" rant for just a second, and get back to what I actually said as opposed to what you want to think I'm saying?

My point, that Slim kept ridiculing and which you almost seem to agree with, is that we DO need to be afraid of domestic terrorists. There are wackos of all stripes, left and right, that are dangerous. In the 1960s and early '70s they were mostly left wing wackos stockpiling guns, blowing up bombs, and kidnapping people; I don't deny that. The establishment at that time was conservative, and the far left were radicals. Times have changed though. The establishment is somewhat more liberal, and we now have a reactionary left and a radical right.

Now is the time for you to step up, be honest, and admit that for some time now it has been mostly right wing wackos stockpiling guns, blowing up bombs, and killing doctors.

How about it, BB? Are you willing to put aside your hatred of all things liberal, and your knee-jerk defense of all things conservative, and admit to a simple honest truth?