10-09-2009, 02:56 PM
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| Who was the last sitting president to be awarded the Peace Prize?
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10-09-2009, 03:11 PM
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| Woodrow Wilson 1919 for his role in helping to found the League of Nations. Teddy Roosevelt 1906 prior to that.
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10-09-2009, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Philistine  My favorite comment on this was along the lines of--"How could the Nobel committee have given him the Peace Prize when he today became the first American President to bomb the Moon?"
(With about 1/4 the power of the Hiroshima atomic bomb, at that).
--Philistine | Liberal lies! Are you suggesting that the United States should have not retaliated for the attacks of 1/31/07?
Go back to Russia, Comrade!
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10-09-2009, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar44 Actually, the nominations had to be in by February 1st. Since Obama was not President until January 20th, that means that he was awarded the NPP based on only nine days.
Questionable, no? | Isn't it possible that he was nominated before February? The nominations had to be in by February. Whether we think he deserves it or not is moot. The Nobel Foundation committee thought he was deserving of it and really that's what counts. He said he didn't deserve it and was humbled by the decision. I congratulate him and I can't wait to see him accomplish those things he set out to.
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10-09-2009, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by migopod Liberal lies! Are you suggesting that the United States should have not retaliated for the attacks of 1/31/07?
Go back to Russia, Comrade! | Nonsense, it was a preemptive strike against the Soup Dragon.
Apparently she was inciting the clangers to do something awful.
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10-09-2009, 04:10 PM
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10-09-2009, 04:50 PM
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| Nobel Insiders: Beer Summit Sealed it for Obama
Nobel Insiders: Beer Summit Sealed it for Obama
Rose Garden Bash Gets High Marks in Oslo
OSLO, NORWAY (The Borowitz Report) - As the world responded with a mixture of surprise and amazement to the announcement of President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel insiders revealed that the President's "beer summit" at the White House put him over the top.
"The committee was definitely split down the middle right up until the end," said Agot Valle, a Norwegian politician and member of the five-person Nobel committee. "Some of them were still quite upset about that nasty business with the Somali pirates."
But, according to Ms. Valle, "someone brought up the beer summit, and we all agreed that that was awesome."
Ms. Valle said she hoped that Mr. Obama's victory would be seen not only as a victory for him, but "as a tribute to the healing power of beer."
Ms. Valle acknowledged that the President's win was widely considered an upset, with most pundits having expected the prize to go to Mad Men or 30 Rock.
Elsewhere, NASA bombed the moon, saying it was the one spot President Bush missed.
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10-09-2009, 05:03 PM
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10-09-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TBean Woodrow Wilson 1919 for his role in helping to found the League of Nations. Teddy Roosevelt 1906 prior to that. | Both finishing their second terms. Of course, the irony was that Wilson helped found the LoN and then Congress threw it out!
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10-09-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pigeonmeister Brilliant! God I wish I could be a fly on the wall when Slim, Chase et all wake up to this one!!!
Guys, vent your spleen for our amusment here.
You reckon Kanye's warming up for Obama's acceptance speech? | I reckon its cult of personality. Again.
It basically re-confirms my believe that this organization is as worthless and as credible as the UN.
What I am concerned about is the whack in morale this is going have on soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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10-09-2009, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim What I am concerned about is the whack in morale this is going have on soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. | To be honest, I think they have a lot more to worry about than a bunch of Norwegians handing out prizes!
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10-09-2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pigeonmeister To be honest, I think they have a lot more to worry about than a bunch of Norwegians handing out prizes! | You know that is not the point.
This is an attempt to influence US foreign policy by playing to Obama's ego. It will probably have an effect.
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10-09-2009, 06:32 PM
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| I don't understand the morale issue. It would go up because maybe they get to go home? Then one tragically gets shot by a drunk private trying to steal a jeep like in Band of Brothers? Then everyone's like "ooooh, bittersweet!"
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10-09-2009, 06:49 PM
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| I doubt it. Obama was nominated in february having campaigned on a ticket that emphasised that Afghanistan was the real fight and Iraq a costly distraction. They were already sure he was going to withdraw from Iraq and the situation in Afghanistan seemed (ever so slightly) less futile. You are making your decision based on the current hightly politicised and exceedingly difficult decision Obama faces right now (made harder from the adverse reaction high British loses have had in the UK and the obvious sham election).
I understand its tempting to view this decision, like most of your theories, as part of a liberal conspiracy to subvert American morality and undermine its national security. But I think the anti-Bush protest vote combined with the slightly patronising observation that Obama is a black president who said some nice things about Muslims the more convincing theory.
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10-09-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA Yes, I agree. I see no legitimate reason whatsoever that Obama should have won this.
He made a nice speech reaching out to Muslims, but other than that, I can't think of a single reason for him to get it. | I imagine that his main perceived accomplishments were winning the U.S. presidential election and not being a belligerent idiot. | |
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10-09-2009, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lindajdunn I disagree with the award and think this was politically motivated. IMHO, this was the committee telling the US what they thought of the Bush era. | You mean they did not that when they gave it to Carter or Gore?
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10-09-2009, 07:59 PM
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| Well, it should be obvious that they gave that fancy award to Obama to pave the way for him to be prez of the UN for life and make a one world gov. next we will hear from the truth sayers about how americans will be rounded up into fema camps, and the us army is bein' trained up to subdue us citizens.
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10-09-2009, 10:27 PM
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10-09-2009, 11:36 PM
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Edit: I wonder.... how many of these people that are clamoring that he hasn't been in office long enough to deserve the award are among the same people that were so hyped to judge his success as president after only 90 days?
| As far as these forums, judging by who I've seen replying here (and their thoughts on the matter) - not many.
Personally, I also think the prize was more politically motivated than anything else, and a way for them to say "We like the direction you're taking America compared to recent years under Bush (concerning foreign policy anyway). Whoa, was that guy a douche-bag or what!  ". IMO, he has not yet done enough to deserve the prize despite ambitions to do so.
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10-09-2009, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by I_luv_saber IMO, he has not yet done enough to deserve the prize despite ambitions to do so. | A lot of people think so, including Obama. He expressed his reactions to the prize in what I thought was a modest and appropriate way, saying it was 'he did not feel he deserved "to be in the company" of past Peace Prize winners' and it was 'less as a recognition of his own accomplishments and more as "a call to action."' (from CNN site). I heard that he's giving the prize money to charity, which I think is a classy move.
I also saw that John McCain made gracious and generous remarks along the same lines - which shows what can happen when grownups speak instead of rabid partisans. Nice job, McCain.
Google found me this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-1633669.html Well, they called that pretty well.
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