09-21-2009, 12:52 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Quick rules question
How long does the tip of a weapon have to be depressed to score a point?
Epee: 750g, X milliseconds
Foil: 500g, Y milliseconds
Sabre: Touch, ?
P.s. This will help me do calculations for current & capacitor usage in a beeper xD
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09-21-2009, 12:54 PM
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#2 | | gother than thou
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| Epee: x > 0
Foil: y > 15
Sabre: ? > 0
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09-21-2009, 12:56 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| Saber has the whipover timing which I think works out to (X<5 or X>15), or something like that.
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09-21-2009, 12:58 PM
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| So for Epee & Sabre, I'd have to what? Pre-charge the capacitor?
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09-21-2009, 01:03 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| Epee is an open circuit at rest...the light fires as soon as teh circuit is completed by the contact spring shorting across the contacts at the end of the wires. There's a TRAVEL requirement of 1mm + .5mm residual travel, but that's not what you're looking for.
Foil is a normally closed circuit that requires a break of at least 15 milliseconds to fire the light.
Sabre is similar to epee, in that the light fires immediately upon blade contact with the other guy's target. The whipover time is something different. | |
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09-21-2009, 01:04 PM
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#6 | | Fencing Expert
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| Epee is 2 ms, not 0 (well, 2-10 ms, but with an absolute regulation that it should not register if the signal is less than 2 ms).
Foil is 14ms +/- 1 ms.
Sabre is .1 to 1 ms. If the hit contact time is less than .1 ms then a touch should not register.
-B
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09-23-2009, 10:15 AM
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| Brad wins (not a first), not only due to accurate information including the allowable ranges, but he use of those myserious 'unit' things... how crazy O.o
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09-23-2009, 10:21 AM
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by keropie  Brad wins (not a first), not only due to accurate information including the allowable ranges, but he use of those myserious 'unit' things... how crazy O.o | To be fair, I cheated a bit.
I have a book with information in it that can answer many different rules questions. It included all of the ranges I mentioned. All I did was take some of the information there and put it here.
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09-23-2009, 10:44 AM
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by oiuyt To be fair, I cheated a bit.
I have a book with information in it that can answer many different rules questions. It included all of the ranges I mentioned. All I did was take some of the information there and put it here.
-B | You have a Book?! With rules in it? Oh my, if only there was a way that people could get those for free...
Sorry, I had to. | |
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09-23-2009, 11:11 AM
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| Er...Brad... where in that Book does it say how long the tip of a sabre must be depressed? 
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09-23-2009, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Er...Brad... where in that Book does it say how long the tip of a sabre must be depressed? | Sabre tips are always depressed. It's because they feel inadequate and wish they were epee tips. 
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09-24-2009, 09:25 AM
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#12 | | Curmudgeon Emeritus
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| Nah. Sabre tips whistle while they work!
Epee tips, though, often have a screw loose.
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