defenseless against missiles

[noodle]

1. UT is not as liberal as people think it is. Austin is a liberal cesspool but not everyone in Austin goes to UT. Unfortunately, the liberals at UT are not concerned with facts and proclaim that it is a liberal institution. They are just more vocal because they think their in the majority because Austin is a a liberal town filled with homeless musicians who smoke pot all day. Most of my family and friends of my family have gone there and we're not liberals. Jenna Bush went there too. Its a large school so there are going to be a lot of anybody (including liberals, unfortunately), but its also arguably the best school in Texas and possibly the world.

2. Legacy isn't the same thing as affirmative action because the families of legacy students support (and therefore improve) the schools instead of making them weaker.

hahaha

cognitive dissonance at its finest

[Inquartata]

1. You need to read Machiavelli. Its standard procedure for tyrannic communist regimes.

Machiavelli worked for the representatives of the merchant and banking classes; he'd be amused to hear that he was a communist...

Not all monarchs are, either.

Legacy isn't the same thing as affirmative action because the families of legacy students support (and therefore improve) the schools instead of making them weaker.

You mean, they pay tuition?

[jessicasimpson]

but its also arguably the best school in Texas and possibly the world.

2. Legacy isn't the same thing as affirmative action because the families of legacy students support (and therefore improve) the schools instead of making them weaker.

in your world only

first, you are getting a slot at UT over more qualified people due to your birth status, that is affirmative action. second, and i am not trying to set up a straw man, but are you saying that letting in the most qualified minorities makes the school weaker, while letting in the idiot childen of alum makes the school stronger?

[prototoast]

2. Legacy isn't the same thing as affirmative action because the families of legacy students support (and therefore improve) the schools instead of making them weaker.

Those who believe in affirmative action believe that adding diversity to the school tangibly improves the quality of the educational experience. Affirmative action is not about charity, it is about enriching the academic environment by recognizing that certain people's potential contribution to the school may be underrepresented by traditional metrics because of societal conditions they have lived with.

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with that, but your claim that aa makes school weaker should not be immediately accepted. It requires justification.

[chase]

1. Legacy programs are proven to encourage alumni support by way of donations. UT has one of the largest endowments and is a better school because of it. The third-tier toilet Texas gay & m scrapped their legacy program a couple of years ago and has suffered as a result (not like those idiots had far to fall anyway).

2. "Idiot children of alumni" isn't correct. I bet that on average legacy applicants have BETTER records than any affirmative action applicants.

3. I didn't apply as legacy anyway. I worked hard in school and spent lots of time in Kaplan prep courses and with private tutors. I did really good on the SAT and my GPA is near perfect (at a very hard private school).

4. Yes, we are in fact the best. Just to name a few: Red McCombs creator of Clear Channel, Dr. Cade inventor of Gatorade, Roger Clemens, Michael Dell, Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon Mobil, James Mulva CEO of Conoco Phillips, Gary Polland, Jeb Bush, Donald Evans, William J. Bennett, Scott McClellan, Vince Young, Tom Hicks, and Future Governor Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

[jessicasimpson]

1. Legacy programs are proven to encourage alumni support by way of donations. UT has one of the largest endowments and is a better school because of it. The third-tier toilet Texas gay & m scrapped their legacy program a couple of years ago and has suffered as a result (not like those idiots had far to fall anyway)..

I can't argue, if you say Texas A&M is gay, you must know first hand

2. "Idiot children of alumni" isn't correct. I bet that on average legacy applicants have BETTER records than any affirmative action applicants..

If this was true,(it's not) schools would not need a legacy program

3. I didn't apply as legacy anyway. I worked hard in school and spent lots of time in Kaplan prep courses and with private tutors. I did really good on the SAT and my GPA is near perfect (at a very hard private school)..

If you were not an "idiot child of alumni" you would not need prep courses and private tutors

4. Yes, we are in fact the best. Just to name a few: Red McCombs creator of Clear Channel, Dr. Cade inventor of Gatorade, Roger Clemens, Michael Dell, Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon Mobil, James Mulva CEO of Conoco Phillips, Gary Polland, Jeb Bush, Donald Evans, William J. Bennett, Scott McClellan, Vince Young, Tom Hicks, and Future Governor Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

Here is a small (but far from complete)list of schools better than UT:
http://fencing.teamusa.org/content/index/3873

[MyrddinsPrecint]

3. I didn't apply as legacy anyway. I worked hard in school and spent lots of time in Kaplan prep courses and with private tutors. I did really good on the SAT and my GPA is near perfect (at a very hard private school).

4. Yes, we are in fact the best. Just to name a few: Red McCombs creator of Clear Channel, Dr. Cade inventor of Gatorade, Roger Clemens, Michael Dell, Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon Mobil, James Mulva CEO of Conoco Phillips, Gary Polland, Jeb Bush, Donald Evans, William J. Bennett, Scott McClellan, Vince Young, Tom Hicks, and Future Governor Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

You still haven't answered how you happen to know you're accepted months before the deadline, and well before first quarter senior year grades could be sent out. As I said, there may be some protocol by which students can hear early, I just couldn't find it.

The top schools in the country are somewhat of a toss up. I've already said that UT is a great school. But it's not even on the list for overall best in the world. On US News and World Report, it's only 47th. {edit: in the US, among "national universities"} Now, USN&WR has some problems. But let's compare, say, UT and Harvard.

Endowments: UT, 16.1 billion, systemwide
Harvard, 26 billion

Student-to-Faculty: UT- about 20 to 1
Harvard- about 8 to 1
Varsity teams: UT- 18
Harvard- 41

This one surprised me: Harvard actually has a bigger campus, by about 30 acres.

Not that any of those things, individually, make or break a college education. (.... the student to faculty ratio does get close, though...)


UT is a great option for people in Texas. And if you're in-state, and have any interest in finance or accounting, it doesn't make much sense to consider going elsewhere. But it ain't the best in the world, sorry.

[keith]

This one surprised me: Harvard actually has a bigger campus, by about 30 acres.

The forestry program probably helps.

[Hauptman]

I did really good on the SAT and my GPA is near perfect (at a very hard private school).

4. Yes, we are in fact the best.

I can see by that first sentence that you obviously did very well at your academically difficult private school; please note the sarcasm.

And while U.T. may be many things, you are nothing yet. Taking pride in the accomplishment of others does nothing for you unless I am a better person for being a Yankees fan.

"Humility", Chase, look it up; I believe it's supposed to be a very Christian value.

[lindajdunn]

I did really good on the SAT and my GPA is near perfect (at a very hard private school).

AYYYYYEEEEEIIIIIIII!!!!!!

With grammar like that??????

I cannot believe you did WELL on the SAT.

Really! I can't read any of your postings without getting a nervous tic at the how you abuse the English language.

[Bayou Bum]

I can see by that first sentence that you obviously did very well at your academically difficult private school; please note the sarcasm.

And while U.T. may be many things, you are nothing yet. Taking pride in the accomplishment of others does nothing for you unless I am a better person for being a Yankees fan.

"Humility", Chase, look it up; I believe it's supposed to be a very Christian value.

I get really annoyed at you preaching about Christian values. You hate everything about Christians and religion and I am sure your knowledge of Christianity is even less than your knowledge of how many Representatives there are. What so you hoping to accomplish here?

[erooMynohtnA]

I get really annoyed at you preaching about Christian values. You hate everything about Christians and religion and I am sure your knowledge of Christianity is even less than your knowledge of how many Representatives there are. What so you hoping to accomplish here?

But is, or is not, humility a Christian value?

[Hauptman]

I get really annoyed at you preaching about Christian values. You hate everything about Christians and religion and I am sure your knowledge of Christianity is even less than your knowledge of how many Representatives there are. What so you hoping to accomplish here?

Wrong again, BB. You just hate it cause I use your own supposed values against you. The hate is all yours.

In no way do I hate Christians or religion; I can't stand all the hypocritical so-called believers... like you.

[chase]

You still haven't answered how you happen to know you're accepted months before the deadline, and well before first quarter senior year grades could be sent out. As I said, there may be some protocol by which students can hear early, I just couldn't find it.

The top schools in the country are somewhat of a toss up. I've already said that UT is a great school. But it's not even on the list for overall best in the world.

It's not formal yet, but with my test scores, gpa, letters of recommendation, and volunteer experience, I would be very very surprised if I didn't get in.

Oh yeah? Is that why it is on the very short list of Public Ivies?

All places like Harvard have is history. For a long time they were the only decent schools around and very easy to get into. If you look from the mid 1900s onward, UT dwarfs any other institution.

[chase]

Here is a small (but far from complete)list of schools better than UT:
http://fencing.teamusa.org/content/index/3873

I haven't even heard of most of those schools and I bet nobody else has either. Try again.

[jeff]

I haven't even heard of most of those schools and I bet nobody else has either. Try again.

You haven't heard of Columbia, Cornell, or Princeton?
You haven't heard of MIT?
You haven't heard of Harvard?
Ohio State?
NYU?

Don't get out much, do you? Still, it's revealing to see this kid bragging about not knowing things.

[jeff]

Wrong again, BB. You just hate it cause I use your own supposed values against you. The hate is all yours.

In no way do I hate Christians or religion; I can't stand all the hypocritical so-called believers... like you.

It's just BB Business As Usual. Whenever he gets caught making an ignorant or untruthful statement, he resorts to name-calling. He can't defend what he says, so he throws mud. "not worth the urine" category.

[chase]

You haven't heard of Columbia, Cornell, or Princeton?
You haven't heard of MIT?
You haven't heard of Harvard?
Ohio State?
NYU?

Don't get out much, do you? Still, it's revealing to see this kid bragging about not knowing things.

Learn to read, I said MOST. You just picked the obvious ones. I meant more along the lines of CIT (knock-off of MIT perhaps?), City College of New York, Cleveland State, Haverford (knock-off of Harvard, perhaps?), etc...

[prototoast]

You haven't heard of Columbia, Cornell, or Princeton?
You haven't heard of MIT?
You haven't heard of Harvard?
Ohio State?
NYU?

Don't get out much, do you? Still, it's revealing to see this kid bragging about not knowing things.

Well, there are some rather obscure schools on that list. Still, while I don't think one can effectively put a total ordering on Universities, if we compare the schools categorically, the only categories in which UT can't be topped by a school on that list are football ranking, and number of students (and I guess made up categories like "school closest to the texas state capitol" or "school with the best bovine mascot")

[lindajdunn]

Haverford (knock-off of Harvard, perhaps?), etc...

Cough -- choke -- gasp -- ACK! ACK!

Sputter.....

Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!

That does it! This has to be someone's idea of a joke. You're a sock puppet, right? No one -- and ESPECIALLY no one with access to a computer and the internet can be that deliberately ignorant. Haverford college is in... pay close attention please... HAVERFORD, PENNSYLVANIA. it has nothing to do with Harvard.