More racist claims

[Slim]

I didnt expect this card to be played so soon into the administration, but you knew it was coming. The reverend Jimmy Carter....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/...ion=cnn_latest

The people that voted for Obama are "enlightened". The people that didnt and argued against his policies are racist.

[migopod]

That depends. Have you and Lynn Jenkins found your "Great White Hope" to keep what Rush Limbaugh termed the "Little black man-child" in his place yet?

You don't have to be a racist to oppose president Obama, but chances are that if you're a racist you do oppose president Obama.

[Hauptman]

Originally Posted by Slim

I didnt expect this card to be played so soon into the administration, but you knew it was coming. The reverend Jimmy Carter....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/...ion=cnn_latest

The people that voted for Obama are "enlightened". The people that didnt and argued against his policies are racist.

It's wrong to say that all opposition to Obama is racially based, but it is just as wrong to say that none of it is.

There is still a significant amount of racism out there in this country.

[Bayou Bum]

And Carter also said:

The people that voted for Bush are "enlightened". The people that didn't and argued against his policies are un-American.

[Bayou Bum]

Originally Posted by migopod

That depends. Have you and Lynn Jenkins found your "Great White Hope" to keep what Rush Limbaugh termed the "Little black man-child" in his place yet?

You don't have to be a racist to oppose president Obama, but chances are that if you're a racist you do oppose president Obama.

Using Rush Limbaugh as your typical Republican is like using Rev. Wright as your typical Democrat.

I guess you are one of those that believe only whites are racist. Since when did Rev. Wright, Rev. Jackson, Justice Sotomayor, and others oppose Obama?

Your blanket statements reveal a lot about your prejudices.

[Digital Analog]

Originally Posted by Bayou Bum

Using Rush Limbaugh as your typical Republican is like using Rev. Wright as your typical Democrat.

I guess you are one of those that believe only whites are racist. Since when did Rev. Wright, Rev. Jackson, Justice Sotomayor, and others oppose Obama?

Your blanket statements reveal a lot about your prejudices.

The problem with saying that "Well Black People are racist too! " Is that African-Americans don't have the established power structure that white people do. So they can hate whitey and what do you have to worry about? Nothing. As a White Male YOU have a privileged existence in this country. No one is going to stop you on the highway for driving while white. No one is going to strip search you in the airport because you are white and have a beard. You're not going to have an old lady cross the street before you walk past her because you are a young white male.

Get over yourself. Jimmy Carter is one of the worlds greatest humanitarians. He's made mistakes in his time but overall he calls them how he sees them and he's not afraid to cut to the core of the matter. He Rules

[migopod]

Originally Posted by Bayou Bum

Using Rush Limbaugh as your typical Republican is like using Rev. Wright as your typical Democrat.

I guess you are one of those that believe only whites are racist. Since when did Rev. Wright, Rev. Jackson, Justice Sotomayor, and others oppose Obama?

Your blanket statements reveal a lot about your prejudices.

You're reading a lot into this.
1) "Jimmy Carter said some opposition to Obama is racially motivated. HE'S CALLING ALL OF US RACISTS".
2) Here, 2 examples.
3) Hey. I fault one example while ignoring the other. Here! Some minorities who I feel are racists! You're prejudiced!.

So Wright and Jackson are representatives of the whole Black Liberation Theology movement. They're going to criticise white America. It's what they do. I've never seen any convincing evidence that justice Sotomayor is a racist. Beyond that, I'm not denying that non-whites can be and are racists. Are you denying that whites can be racist?

Your blanket statements reveal a lot about your prejudices.

It's rather interesting that when the DHS comes out with a report warning of potentially violent right-wing extremist movements a whole bunch of Republicans come out complaining that they've been called extremists, even though the report in question was talking about guys like Tim McVeigh, not the mainstream of the Repulican party. Now when Jimmy Carter says that there's a faction on the right who oppose president Obama because of his race the right extrapolates that into a blanket criticism of all opposition being racially motivated.

So are you suggesting that in fact all Republicans are racists and potentially violent extremists? I've never suggested that, Carter never suggested that and the DHS never suggested that.

How did it happen that when Obama was elected that all white racism suddenly ceased to exist and that now the only possible racism is anti-white?

[Slim]

Originally Posted by Digital Analog

The problem with saying that "Well Black People are racist too! " Is that African-Americans don't have the established power structure that white people do. So they can hate whitey and what do you have to worry about?

What rock have you been living under?

[chase]

people called bush stupid, but jimmy carter is at least 10 times stupider. he is a total moron and the biggest laughing stock excuse for a president we have ever seen (but obama is well on his way to taking that title away from him). 99% of the people i know hate obama but none of them are racists.

[migopod]

Originally Posted by chase

people called bush stupid, but jimmy carter is at least 10 times stupider. he is a total moron and the biggest laughing stock excuse for a president we have ever seen (but obama is well on his way to taking that title away from him). 99% of the people i know hate obama but none of them are racists.

Hey... How'd you end up with negative rep? I thought that feature was disabled on FdN.

[lindajdunn]

Originally Posted by Bayou Bum

Using Rush Limbaugh as your typical Republican is like using Rev. Wright as your typical Democrat.

I guess you are one of those that believe only whites are racist. Since when did Rev. Wright, Rev. Jackson, Justice Sotomayor, and others oppose Obama?

Your blanket statements reveal a lot about your prejudices.

Your inclusion of Justice Sotomayor alongside Rev. Wright and Jesse Jackson sreveals a lot about your prejudices.

[Digital Analog]

Originally Posted by Slim

What rock have you been living under?

No seriously when was the last time you were hassled by a cop for the color of your skin? Or denied a loan even though you could afford it and had the credit? Just because we now have a black President doesn't mean that white people everywhere have thrown off the mantle of White Privilege that has been so carefully cultivated for the last thousand years.

White people can make racially motivated comments whenever they feel like and no one will call them on it. Glenn Beck can call the president a "Kenyan Muslim", even though he's not or a "Welfare Thug" whatever that is. Who calls him on it? Does he have to answer for these false and bizarre accusations? No.

If a black person were to say something like that they wouldn't be allowed on TV. Oh wait I forgot there are almost no black hosts on cable news networks. Nevermind, they couldn't even say it if they wanted to. So guess what, black people don't even have the same say on major news networks as white people. Sounds like racism to me.


I'll leave you with this. We can all name leaders in Black Liberation Theology. Every time they say something controversial it gets played over and over again. Can you name any of the White Power movement leaders?

[jeff]

(1) Glenn Beck also claimed that Obama had a deep hatred of white people. That must have made conversation at the family dinner table awkward, considering that his mother was white. In other words: Obama's enemies have played the race card on multiple occasions.

(2) Florida republican comparing Michelle Obama to an escaped gorilla. http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...lle-obama.html Point being that there is a racist component to the attacks on Obama, and his family, as demonstrated in this case.

(3) Listening to weirdo Michael Savage on the radio last night (when returning from fencing practice I channel-surf "nutjob radio") he said that liberals now claim *all* opposition to Obama is racist. Well, besides being a foolish and dishonest claim, it tries to inoculate actual racist behavior, and poisons the well against any counter to Obama's opponents as being based on false claims of racism.

(4) How the heck *did* chase get negative rep. It's well deserved, but I also thought that function didn't exist. Sometimes the Computer Really Knows Best.

[Purple Fencer]

Originally Posted by Digital Analog

Glenn Beck can call the president a "Kenyan Muslim", even though he's not or a "Welfare Thug" whatever that is. Who calls him on it?

Keith Olberman, for one.

But that's easy, since Beck's such a retard...

[Fechter1]

Originally Posted by chase

99% of the people i know hate obama but none of them are racists.

You need to get out more...

[erooMynohtnA]

Originally Posted by migopod

Hey... How'd you end up with negative rep? I thought that feature was disabled on FdN.

Admins have the power to neg, but my question is Chase's repping power now negative?


Also, Obama the racist:

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by chase

people called bush stupid, but jimmy carter is at least 10 times stupider. he is a total moron and the biggest laughing stock excuse for a president we have ever seen (but obama is well on his way to taking that title away from him). 99% of the people i know hate obama but none of them are racists.

Look, Carter wasn't spectacular as presidents-while-actually-president go. Most people will agree on that. But I'm curious about the "we have ever seen". If you're talking about America.... Harrison and Garfield barely did anything, and people like Harding, Johnson, and Buchanan are well agreed upon to have been pretty terrible. While Carter's never been at the top, there have always been plenty of people below him.

If you're using "we" in the royal sense, for presidents YOU'VE seen alive, you really can't count Carter, since you didn't see him as a president. I similarly have a very hard time talking about modern presidents, since I am young, and before Obama there were two two-term presidents.

Furthermore, everyone's a little bit racist, in the sense that "everyone makes judgments based on race"--- people may not act on them, but they make them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbud8rLejLM

How would you know if someone you knew was a racist? Like, what would someone have to do in your presence to be labeled a racist? I don't know the political leanings of many I know. I don't know the sexualities of many people I know. I'm not sure if I would know if people I knew were racists, so I'm interested to find out how you determine this about the people around you.

Originally Posted by migopod

Hey... How'd you end up with negative rep? I thought that feature was disabled on FdN.

IIRC, the mods still have the power.

[migopod]

Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA

Admins have the power to neg, but my question is Chase's repping power now negative?

That's a good question. Does he now possess a de-repping ray?

Originally Posted by erooMynohtnA

Also, Obama the racist:

nice

[Digital Analog]

Originally Posted by Purple Fencer

Keith Olberman, for one.

But that's easy, since Beck's such a retard...

Ok I'll give you that, but did Beck get in trouble for any of it?(other than sponsors dropping like flies) Was there ever any official response from Fox News?

[Purple Fencer]

Originally Posted by Digital Analog

Ok I'll give you that, but did Beck get in trouble for any of it?(other than sponsors dropping like flies) Was there ever any official response from Fox News?

Nnnnnnope....which is what you'd expect from Fox.