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    Quote Originally Posted by thereom4 View Post
    You might be a racist if......you believe that the best and the brightest are only white men.

    The only way you'll survive in this world with an opinion like that is to (like many racists) keep it to yourself. Just a piece of advise.
    Only might be a racist?

    Nah, racism doesn't exist in Texas, and certainly not in well-publicised cases like: http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/bla...ragged-to.html and further described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas

    I think I'll stick to the other Paris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Only might be a racist?

    Nah, racism doesn't exist in Texas, and certainly not in well-publicised cases like: http://boingboing.net/2008/10/24/bla...ragged-to.html and further described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas

    I think I'll stick to the other Paris.
    The other Paris has had its own share of race issues lately, just with Algerians mostly.

    Unless you mean Paris Hilton, who despite her various faults does not really seem to have obvious racial tensions.
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    That was good, migopod, I forgot about her! But, I don't want to have anything to do with her, either!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Only might be a racist?
    Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. At least for now.
    Last edited by thereom4; 09-22-2009 at 10:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    I think I'll stick to the other Paris.
    Arkansas? I'm not imagining the situation would be a whole lot better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_saber View Post
    Arkansas? I'm not imagining the situation would be a whole lot better...
    Idaho? Maybe a little better.
    >:U

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    Hmm. Maybe.

    ......

    Well... yeah, probably.
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    How about Bally's Paris Las Vegas? That might be a bit more fun. (*)

    What does it say about "which place names are associated with glamor and the Good Life" that there's a Paris in Arkansas, Texas, and Idaho, but you don't see towns around the world naming themselves Little Rock or Houston? OTOH, as far as I know there are no rich heiress dimwits named "Boise".





    (*) I've been there for business and it's actually pretty good. That depends on whether you like Vegas or not in the first place.
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    Racism in Tucson

    "The board is calling for a two-tiered form of student discipline. One for Black and Hispanic students; one for everyone else."

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...chern0920.html


    What I find very interesting is the make up of Obama's Cabinet. I've never seen so many white men and women in one Cabinet. And look at the congressional leaders of the Dumocrat Party, all white. I thought they were supposed to be the party of minorities?

    I'm glad the Republicans aren't that racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    "The board is calling for a two-tiered form of student discipline. One for Black and Hispanic students; one for everyone else."

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...chern0920.html


    What I find very interesting is the make up of Obama's Cabinet. I've never seen so many white men and women in one Cabinet. And look at the congressional leaders of the Dumocrat Party, all white. I thought they were supposed to be the party of minorities?

    I'm glad the Republicans aren't that racist.
    Nice, BB, but if I believed every piece of biased, unsupported, pseudo-journalistic crap that gets written... well... I might actually believe some of what you spew out.

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    I don't know anything about the Tucson school system (nor does BB) so can't tell whether the accusations in the article BB quotes have any validity. Note that it's an opinion piece, not a news article.

    The Tucson school report is at http://www.tusd.k12.az.us/CONTENTS/d...ments/pusp.pdf Looking at page 25, there's "TUSD will administer discipline in a fair and equitable manner, striving for no ethnic/racial disparities.... TUSD recognizes that there are ethnic/racial disparities in student discipline actions (see Appendix E.1 and E.2 for suspension data). School data that show disparities in suspension/expulsion rates will be examined in detail for root causes. Special attention will be dedicated to data regarding African American and Hispanic students.".

    Well, that sounds interesting, so I looked at the data. They show year over year increases in suspension for all students (why? are all them getting nastier every year?) with lower rates for whites than African Americans, Hispanic, or Native Americans.

    So, back to page 25 to read it closely. It says things like "Students who are suspended lose learning time. The goal is to shift from a culture of punishment to one of discipline that focuses on teaching students how to behave responsibly when confronted with conflicts and to learn appropriate problem-solving strategies that will help them become responsible and caring adults" and "TUSD will use data reports to identify schools with unusual patterns or rates of discipline, in order to determine the causes of these patterns and take immediate action in collaboration with the school to correct them."

    There is nothing there to justify MacEachem's claim that "Offenses by students will be judged, and penalties meted out, depending on the student's hue". Now, if you're of a suspicious nature and think that whites have the dirty end of the stick in society you might come to the same conclusion, but there's nothing in the document to substantiate the claim that whites and non-whites will be judged differently.

    I look forward to BB"s forthcoming post where he says that "driving while black" arrests are inherently racist and should be stopped immediately, and that penalties for position should be the same for cocaine (used by white folks) and crack (used by black folks) instead of much higher for crack.



    EDIT: According to Wikipedia, this school district TUSD is currently under a federal desegregation order to help balance district schools in terms of race and ethnicity. I wonder if that's the root cause of the outrage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauptman View Post
    Nice, BB, but if I believed every piece of biased, unsupported, pseudo-journalistic crap that gets written... well... I might actually believe some of what you spew out.

    How's the weather on your planet?
    Come on, you have already proven your ignorance.

    And the weather is fine here, no global warming like in your fantasy world! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    I don't know anything about the Tucson school system (nor does BB) so can't tell whether the accusations in the article BB quotes have any validity. Note that it's an opinion piece, not a news article.

    The Tucson school report is at http://www.tusd.k12.az.us/CONTENTS/d...ments/pusp.pdf Looking at page 25, there's "TUSD will administer discipline in a fair and equitable manner, striving for no ethnic/racial disparities.... TUSD recognizes that there are ethnic/racial disparities in student discipline actions (see Appendix E.1 and E.2 for suspension data). School data that show disparities in suspension/expulsion rates will be examined in detail for root causes. Special attention will be dedicated to data regarding African American and Hispanic students.".

    Well, that sounds interesting, so I looked at the data. They show year over year increases in suspension for all students (why? are all them getting nastier every year?) with lower rates for whites than African Americans, Hispanic, or Native Americans.

    So, back to page 25 to read it closely. It says things like "Students who are suspended lose learning time. The goal is to shift from a culture of punishment to one of discipline that focuses on teaching students how to behave responsibly when confronted with conflicts and to learn appropriate problem-solving strategies that will help them become responsible and caring adults" and "TUSD will use data reports to identify schools with unusual patterns or rates of discipline, in order to determine the causes of these patterns and take immediate action in collaboration with the school to correct them."

    There is nothing there to justify MacEachem's claim that "Offenses by students will be judged, and penalties meted out, depending on the student's hue". Now, if you're of a suspicious nature and think that whites have the dirty end of the stick in society you might come to the same conclusion, but there's nothing in the document to substantiate the claim that whites and non-whites will be judged differently.

    I look forward to BB"s forthcoming post where he says that "driving while black" arrests are inherently racist and should be stopped immediately, and that penalties for position should be the same for cocaine (used by white folks) and crack (used by black folks) instead of much higher for crack.



    EDIT: According to Wikipedia, this school district TUSD is currently under a federal desegregation order to help balance district schools in terms of race and ethnicity. I wonder if that's the root cause of the outrage...
    Why should the government punish you for anything you do to yourself? Unless you are driving under the influence and a danger to others, there shouldn't be any penalty for using drugs. Personally, I think listening to liberals and Obama does more to rot your brain than using drugs. I'm sure you will deny it or have some comeback that only proves my point. Maybe you should try drugs instead. Dare to keep your kids off Obama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Why should the government punish you for anything you do to yourself? Unless you are driving under the influence and a danger to others, there shouldn't be any penalty for using drugs. Personally, I think listening to liberals and Obama does more to rot your brain than using drugs. I'm sure you will deny it or have some comeback that only proves my point. Maybe you should try drugs instead. Dare to keep your kids off Obama!
    This explains all the crime to support peoples "Obama" habbbit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Why should the government punish you for anything you do to yourself? Unless you are driving under the influence and a danger to others, there shouldn't be any penalty for using drugs. Personally, I think listening to liberals and Obama does more to rot your brain than using drugs. I'm sure you will deny it or have some comeback that only proves my point. Maybe you should try drugs instead. Dare to keep your kids off Obama!
    I catch you BS-ing again, and you respond with drivel. Well, par for the course. Go sit in the dunces corner with chase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    For the most part I view CC's 13th and 14th grade....basically as a place for kids that didnt have their $hite together in HS and finally realized that they screwed up.
    It depends entirely on the specific community college and what the individual's goal is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Bum View Post
    Why should the government punish you for anything you do to yourself? Unless you are driving under the influence and a danger to others, there shouldn't be any penalty for using drugs. Personally, I think listening to liberals and Obama does more to rot your brain than using drugs. I'm sure you will deny it or have some comeback that only proves my point. Maybe you should try drugs instead. Dare to keep your kids off Obama!
    Am I the only one seeing the irony here?

    Because I could have sworn that it's mainly liberals that have been for legalizing drug use and other victimless crimes.

    Go figure.
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    I suppose you have to give credit for true libertarian-leanings. It is something that should be supported more by the true conservatives and spits in the face of rhetoric...
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    I just thought I would drop in with another pithy comment, having worked on enough EEO plans for employers, the government tells us there are no quotas, only recommended goals. When you do a plan you have to get the standard metropolitan data statistics and you base your "goal" off of that. So you have to go out and seek people of a certain category based on the statistics.

    Of course to protect yourself you can use it in reverse. What? I am short three American Indian engineers? um, sure, I'll scour the area for one. Of course, you use that as a protection for not meeting your goals. It's a big game that makes it easier to actually discriminate holding the stats up as a sheild.
    Score 3 strokes, 4 seizures and 2 brain surgeries

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    Obama Criticism Flow Chart

    It’s pretty exhausting trying to keep track of what is legitimate criticism of President Obama and what is racial hatred. That’s why I developed this handy flow chart:

    http://www.missourah.com/2009/09/15/...sm-flow-chart/
    This handy flowchart should help everyone determine if they are considered a racist. Hope it helps!
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