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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    couric executed a shameless political ploy to get obama elected by a sucker-punch character assassination of gov. palin.
    That's a bit vague. What, specifically did she do?

    in case you didnt know, there are laws in this country against slander. she ought to be arrested and sued. {snip}
    Which statement by Couric do you think was slanderous? I'm really curious here. As MyrddinsPrecinct points out--it's pretty difficult to to defame someone by asking a question (though not impossible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint View Post
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    Slander is a tort, and is taken up in civil courts. You cannot be arrested for slander. You could, perhaps, be arrested for disturbing the peace, and you maybe were disturbing the peace by loudly slandering someone, but you would not be arrested for slander.
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    There are still criminal defamation laws in a few states. They are rarely used and subject to criticism when they are, but they are still on the books and, AIUI, so long as they follow the constitutional requirements for libel (e.g. allow truth to be a defense, require actual malice in the case of public figures and public matters, etc.) they would probably be upheld (as many of these laws predate NY Times v. Sullivan, they probably don't meet the requirements and would likely be held unconstitutional).

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    i think youll find this enlighetning: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jz...h-sarah-palin/

    couric chopped and edited the interview purposely to make her look bad.

    personally i cant wait for this documentary: http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

    http://thenationalscene.com/liberals-hate-sarah-palin/
    Bury socialist healthcare with Ted Kennedy.

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    Sarah Palin needed no editing sleight-of-hand to make her look bad. She did that all by herself.

    If you think Couric chopped and edited the interview herself--on her own volition--and as part of a deliberate, personal effort to make Palin come across unfavorably, then you are woefully ignorant of the layers of handling, staffing and review that exist at the network news level of the big 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    God, I love Obama so much. I wept tears of joy.
    >:U

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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    i think youll find this enlighetning: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jz...h-sarah-palin/
    I don't find it enlightening.

    Neither Couric nor the CBS interview is mentioned in that article. Am I missing something? (I didn't watch the video--because frankly, 9 minutes is just too long--is it somewhere in there?). I've never actually seen a complaint by her or either the McCain or Palin campaign about the editing.

    I'm a little unclear about how editiing could be slander, unless you're actually dubbing in answers to different questions or some such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philistine View Post
    I don't find it enlightening.

    Neither Couric nor the CBS interview is mentioned in that article. Am I missing something? (I didn't watch the video--because frankly, 9 minutes is just too long--is it somewhere in there?). I've never actually seen a complaint by her or either the McCain or Palin campaign about the editing.

    I'm a little unclear about how editiing could be slander, unless you're actually dubbing in answers to different questions or some such.

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    if you actually watched the video gov. palin mentioned editing/chopping/splicing. i think she would know because she was actually THERE (unlike any of you).
    Bury socialist healthcare with Ted Kennedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    but we might be able to get sponsors to pull out of her just like they did with glenn beck.
    If her sponsors are inside of her, that is a whole 'nother ethics topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    if you actually watched the video gov. palin mentioned editing/chopping/splicing. i think she would know because she was actually THERE (unlike any of you).
    Well i watched the link, and when Palin said "editing/chopping/splicing" the full quote was "I never saw the interview after it was edited/chopped/spliced, and then aired, so I do not know"
    Maybe you should try again there chase
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    if you actually watched the video gov. palin mentioned editing/chopping/splicing. i think she would know because she was actually THERE (unlike any of you).
    So? She doesn't have a vested interest in this?

    I would imagine Couric says that it did not happen. Since she was there, too, she must know, right?

    You're making the argument that because she says something happened and she was there, she must be telling the truth, yet are not applying this same standard to Couric. To channel Inq here, if Palin is making an accusation (which I'm not sure of anyway), as the accuser it's her job to bring forth evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_saber View Post
    So? She doesn't have a vested interest in this?

    I would imagine Couric says that it did not happen. Since she was there, too, she must know, right?

    You're making the argument that because she says something happened and she was there, she must be telling the truth, yet are not applying this same standard to Couric. To channel Inq here, if Palin is making an accusation (which I'm not sure of anyway), as the accuser it's her job to bring forth evidence.

    I don't understand his argument at all.......not only did Palin not make an accusation, but she admited she never saw the interview air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_saber View Post
    To channel Inq here
    Careful! Sometimes channeling turns into possession. Next thing you know you'll be fencing sabre, voting Republican, making bad puns and quoting Latin proverbs.
    Use the Shift key, people! Keyboard manufacturers everywhere are ineffably saddened when you ignore what they made just for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    Careful! Sometimes channeling turns into possession. Next thing you know you'll be fencing sabre, voting Republican, making bad puns and quoting Latin proverbs.
    I already fit half of that bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chase View Post
    if you actually watched the video gov. palin mentioned editing/chopping/splicing. i think she would know because she was actually THERE (unlike any of you).
    And...no politician has ever claimed to have never made a controversial statement, been misquoted, or had their words edited out of context...only to later be confronted with the actual videotape showing just the opposite.
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