New Compilation Video: Point in Line

[Purple Fencer]

I entirely disagree. I just picked up both a foil and a sabre and tried it both ways. I could not discern a difference in terms of which was easier to disengage with...

That comes down to an experience and technique issue...beginners doing a disengage straight-armed tend to disengage around the guy in front of them, as well as on the pistes on either side!

An experienced fencer can pull it off straight armed, however.

Check out the 2:24 mark in this vid. Yes, it's stage combat, but it's also Basil Rathbone, the best swordsman in Hollywood (even though his characters kept losing...sucks to be the bad guy!), and an actual fencer.

(Ok...it's actually a beat-double and not a disengage, but you get the idea.)

[oiuyt]

beginners doing a disengage straight-armed tend to disengage around the guy in front of them, as well as on the pistes on either side!

Beginners doing a disengage prior to extending their arm tend to disengage around the guy in front of them, as well as on the pistes on either side too. Heck, their straight extensions sometimes deviate by that much!

I'm not sure technique-as-performed-by-beginners is a particularly useful metric by which to judge.

-B

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Brad since you're an FIE licensed sabre referee, let me ask you. How is PiL called now (or...how should I be calling it)? Because it is clearly not called the way the rule book has laid out. Also as a former FOC, I was wondering if you knew why there has been no communication from the FOC to the cadre about the change in interpretation, and how it's supposed to be called?

[KShan5[PrFC]]

That comes down to an experience and technique issue...beginners doing a disengage straight-armed tend to disengage around the guy in front of them, as well as on the pistes on either side!

An experienced fencer can pull it off straight armed, however.

Check out the 2:24 mark in this vid. Yes, it's stage combat, but it's also Basil Rathbone, the best swordsman in Hollywood (even though his characters kept losing...sucks to be the bad guy!), and an actual fencer.

(Ok...it's actually a beat-double and not a disengage, but you get the idea.)

What vid?

[Purple Fencer]

Beginners doing a disengage prior to extending their arm tend to disengage around the guy in front of them, as well as on the pistes on either side too. Heck, their straight extensions sometimes deviate by that much!

I'm not sure technique-as-performed-by-beginners is a particularly useful metric by which to judge.

-B

You missed my point...someone experienced can probably pull off a straight-armed disengage or double...a noob can't with any degree of control.

As for the vid...sorry, I thought I put it in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McDfLkLqJAE

[oiuyt]

You missed my point...someone experienced can probably pull off a straight-armed disengage or double...a noob can't with any degree of control.

I think you missed my point... Someone experienced can probably pull off a bent-arm disengage or doublé... a noob can't with any degree of control.



-B

[Purple Fencer]

I think you missed my point... Someone experienced can probably pull off a bent-arm disengage or doublé... a noob can't with any degree of control.



-B

A noob can;t do ANYTHING with any degree of control!

[rcmatthews]

I entirely disagree. I just picked up both a foil and a sabre and tried it both ways. I could not discern a difference in terms of which was easier to disengage with...

i find that having a slight bend at the elbow promotes use of the fingers to make the disengage, but ymmv. also, i think that tension is bad, and arrow straight seems tense to me.

[Inquartata]

Brad since you're an FIE licensed sabre referee, let me ask you. How is PiL called now (or...how should I be calling it)? Because it is clearly not called the way the rule book has laid out. Also as a former FOC, I was wondering if you knew why there has been no communication from the FOC to the cadre about the change in interpretation, and how it's supposed to be called?

Heh. Do you actually think he's going to touch that one?

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Heh. Do you actually think he's going to touch that one?

Nope....can't hurt asking though.