White cops must be racist

[jeff]

I am talking about the sort of citizens you will see watching "Cops".

Misplaced Or Missing Verb Alert! I assume you mean the individuals you will see while watching "Cops", not the viewers themselves.

I also was disappointed in the Pres' beer choice. There are lots of better American beers.

[Inquartata]

Could go either way.

But "while" in that context would be a conjunction, not a verb, you know...

[jeff]

Indeed it's a conjunction (but let's make sure we don't cause conjunctivitis) but disambiguates who "see watching" applies too.

Briefly off-thread-drift: it's interesting to see how this subject is a Rorschach blot revealing the beliefs and positions of everyone commenting on it.

[Superscribe]

No I understood your statement. When you say....

I assume you know that you are going to need a team of lawyers (so-called ignorant pusses) to get out of the situation you put yourself into, for doing this.......

Edit:.....and getting caught.

I already told you what I was referring to by ignorant pusses. You interpreted it wrong. The defense I was talking about does not have to happen in the court room. It can happen on a fencing forum. Ignorant pusses, like some arguing on this thread, are defending the actions of someone with too much ego.

Now we both know this is not true. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
Fair, but your arguements and counter points are craptacular and unclear in general.

Sorry i'm late, but i thought i'd offer a rebuttal for this because it sucked. I won't bother defending my the incompleteness of my humor in the previous post, especially to someone with the mental aptitude of a leaky bucket.

[Superscribe]

I also think it's ludicrous, but just out of curiosity; give us some details in your hypothetical situation.

So your hypothetical thief is breaking into a house, the cops arrive, the thief shows this incredible fake ID (I will concede that good fake IDs do exist) stating that this is supposedly the thief's own home.

What next from our police officer?

He's asked for ID, and gotten one that for the sake of argument looks perfect. Is he going to assume the ID that he asked for, and looks perfect, is really fake?

Why would he assume this when many thousands of IDs he sees look perfect because they are real IDs?

What does he do next to investigate that?


How much time will he spend investigating it?

Is this standard procedure?

It really isn't a very plausible scenario to me. Isn't it the standard that they will ask for ID, and upon getting what they assume to be a real ID, be done?

This depends. Does the suspect act like an asshole? If this were to happen now, maybe the police officer wanted to be more thorough, but because the suspect is loud and black, he doesn't want to bring any unnecassary attention and he just says "fine". Good. I can go about my robbing of your house.

Prior to the Gates incident, he sees this ID that is fake but looks real... maybe he would have tried to scan it. Maybe he would have tried to lookup records for the driver's liscence. Maybe he would have asked some prying questions to get the suspect to stumble in his lie. Who knows. If a police officer had a bad feeling in their gut, i'd want them to investigate to be sure.

Lots of security personnel do this. TSA agents ask questions if they're suspicious. Just because i have a US Military ID doesn't stop them from asking questions.

[Inquartata]

this subject is a Rorschach blot revealing the beliefs and positions of everyone commenting on it.

But are the "correct" answers available on Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test

Maybe he would have tried to lookup records for the driver's liscence.

To be sure. Running a 27/28 ( driver's license/registration check ) is almost de rigeur. Because pictures are not always very good, and descriptions change, especially on some licenses. (There's one guy whose license I see fairly often. He wears a full beard and a wild-eyed look in his photo, but he's clean shaven and unremarkable in person. )

Meanwhile, what do you all think of how the "teachable moment" became a secret, private conversation about which not even our Voluble Veep is breaking silence?

[jeff]

But are the "correct" answers available on Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test

I was hoping somebody would follow up with a link to the recent "Rorschach in the news" brouhaha

[Hauptman]

It's really not a big deal; no reputable psychologist uses the Rorschach as a diagnostic tool anymore. There are many more valid and reliable tests available.

Now in a therapeutic setting the Rorschach can still be an interesting way to get some insight into a patient as part of the larger long-term analysis.

[Sins of the Fleche]

I can't believe we've had this many posts referencing Rorschach tests without the obligatory Watchmen comic book reference.

[migopod]

I can't believe we've had this many posts referencing Rorschach tests without the obligatory Watchmen comic book reference.

The Real Rorschach test:

If I break his fingers one by one, will he tell me what I wan to know?

[TrainingDummy]

This depends. Does the suspect act like an asshole? If this were to happen now, maybe the police officer wanted to be more thorough, but because the suspect is loud and black, he doesn't want to bring any unnecassary attention and he just says "fine". Good. I can go about my robbing of your house.

Heeehee, someone who lectured me about ridealongs should probably know that one usually doesn't "rob a house." Given all the ruckus put up in the Gates altercation it probably would have been impossible!

[TrainingDummy]

Briefly off-thread-drift: it's interesting to see how this subject is a Rorschach blot revealing the beliefs and positions of everyone commenting on it.

Agreed.

[I_luv_saber]

Could go either way.

But "while" in that context would be a conjunction, not a verb, you know...

Meh, you can always just go with FatFencer's famous cop out: It's your job as a reader to decipher my sloppy writing as an author.

(completely kidding, in case it wasn't plain)