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    Showing up unregistered

    Why is it that there is a trend for high level (A/B rated) fencers to not register on askfred for a tourney, but than show up on the day of? Is it just to not scare off competitors or something? Are they just too lazy? I've been to a several non-collegiate meets and it seems that this is a trend.


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    We don't know if we're going to show up, most likely...
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    No one notices the 4 U's that showed up without pre-registering. However that 1 A who does....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt View Post
    No one notices the 4 U's that showed up without pre-registering. However that 1 A who does....

    -B
    That's 'cause we have Invisibility Cloaks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt View Post
    No one notices the 4 U's that showed up without pre-registering. However that 1 A who does....

    -B
    That won't happen in our division. Here, we've teamed with Subway to bring to our membership the Carry and Parry program.

    This program offers our membership the discounted price of $6 for Subway's $5 footlong. Our members are required to purchase their sandwich at Subway the Wednesday prior to the event (so that Subway can send us a list of registrants) and bring their sandwich to check-in. Waivers are available for those who can prove that they keep a kosher or halal kitchen (written testimonial from the local Chabad Rebbe or Shiite Imam are required).

    The benefits to the division are many. Subway can offer discounts (only $1 extra) because it knows how much meat substitute to purchase in advance. The division gets $0.50 per sandwich (it was originally supposed to be $1/per, but citing high administrative costs, Subway reduced the kickback to $0.50). And our members get delicious Subway sandwiches to eat at the venue (Carry and Parry subs are the only food allowed in our venues).

    Cindy S., a parent of a competitor, complemented the program. "I didn't have to think about food for the venue" she said. "Plus, I never knew how good these sandwiches were after spending four days in my trunk - beats the heck out of a Quizno's toasted."

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    The Green Mountain Division is presently working on a similar deal called "Lunch and Lunge". I can't presently divulge the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingz240 View Post
    Are they just too lazy?
    There is no such thing as too lazy; just don't care much about it as you do.

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    I have noticed the opposite - the higher-rated fencers who are registered (in order to dangle the opportunity of a highly-rated competition) but don't show.
    "Arm yourself, Watson, there is an evil hand afoot ahead." -- Dennis Pierce, 2010 Bulwer-Lytton contest, detective fiction category runner-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrocket View Post
    The Green Mountain Division is presently working on a similar deal called "Lunch and Lunge". I can't presently divulge the details.
    The Bay Area is working on "Attack and Snack" with Doritos. Or was it "Prise and Peas" with Birdseye? No, no, it was "Flick and Slick" with WD-40.
    =)=///

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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    The Bay Area is working on "Attack and Snack" with Doritos. Or was it "Prise and Peas" with Birdseye? No, no, it was "Flick and Slick" with WD-40.
    There was a rumor of a "Flick and Stick" with Super-Glue in my division...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morale Officer View Post
    There was a rumor of a "Flick and Stick" with Super-Glue in my division...
    I would like to state for the record that I have no knowledge of this program. Nor do I endorse it. It is purely a rumor. Please check our website for details on how you too can sign up and save big money!

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    Is that where you only get to use Super-Glue and it costs you $3.00/tube and the division gets a $1/tube kick-back? We talked to them, but we realized that with the growth of saber fencers, we're not going to be using too much superglue.

    WD-40 is pretty useful for plenty of everyday life, even at $12/bottle.
    =)=///

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    Actually, if you put Super-Glue on the grip of the sabre it keeps it in the kids hands and keeps them from touching an epee...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flechewounds View Post
    That won't happen in our division. Here, we've teamed with Subway to bring to our membership the Carry and Parry program.

    This program offers our membership the discounted price of $6 for Subway's $5 footlong. Our members are required to purchase their sandwich at Subway the Wednesday prior to the event (so that Subway can send us a list of registrants) and bring their sandwich to check-in. Waivers are available for those who can prove that they keep a kosher or halal kitchen (written testimonial from the local Chabad Rebbe or Shiite Imam are required).

    The benefits to the division are many. Subway can offer discounts (only $1 extra) because it knows how much meat substitute to purchase in advance. The division gets $0.50 per sandwich (it was originally supposed to be $1/per, but citing high administrative costs, Subway reduced the kickback to $0.50). And our members get delicious Subway sandwiches to eat at the venue (Carry and Parry subs are the only food allowed in our venues).

    Cindy S., a parent of a competitor, complemented the program. "I didn't have to think about food for the venue" she said. "Plus, I never knew how good these sandwiches were after spending four days in my trunk - beats the heck out of a Quizno's toasted."
    Alright, I laughed. but then I worried about counterfeit sandwiches. What if someone showed up at the door, and it is in a Subway wrapper but looks clearly like a homemade sandwich? What additional evidence/proof of purchase is required? Because, you know, Subway makes mistakes, too. Just because they failed to put this person on the list, doesn't mean the sandwich presented isn't legitimate, or is it? Wait, who does this person go to to argue that the sandwich is really Subway? No one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peach View Post
    I have noticed the opposite - the higher-rated fencers who are registered (in order to dangle the opportunity of a highly-rated competition) but don't show.
    I've noticed that and it annoys me.

    To the contrary of the OP's thought, better fencers are more apt to hedge their time. They would rather not "scare off competition" but want to make sure they commit to a comp that is strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fencerwallet View Post
    Alright, I laughed. but then I worried about counterfeit sandwiches. What if someone showed up at the door, and it is in a Subway wrapper but looks clearly like a homemade sandwich? What additional evidence/proof of purchase is required? Because, you know, Subway makes mistakes, too. Just because they failed to put this person on the list, doesn't mean the sandwich presented isn't legitimate, or is it? Wait, who does this person go to to argue that the sandwich is really Subway? No one?
    That is part of the reason for the Wednesday cut-off. After four days in the trunk, Subway sandwiches develop a unique, identifiable odor - and the watermark placed in the bread becomes clearly visible to the registration table. Subway assures us that their sandwiches, after 4 days in the trunk, are impossible to counterfeit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    The Bay Area is working on "Attack and Snack" with Doritos. Or was it "Prise and Peas" with Birdseye? No, no, it was "Flick and Slick" with WD-40.
    Eric -

    I thought that Flick and Slick was brought to us by the KY company. After all, the Castro is in NorCal. Of course, that could get "sticky" if we mistake a Flick and Slick event for a Flick and Stick event (brought to us by Superglue) - we may have to allow for "buddy fencing" a la Skydiving.

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    I thought I'd stay PG until someone bit. Here they come....
    =)=///

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    Quote Originally Posted by flechewounds View Post
    That is part of the reason for the Wednesday cut-off. After four days in the trunk, Subway sandwiches develop a unique, identifiable odor - and the watermark placed in the bread becomes clearly visible to the registration table. Subway assures us that their sandwiches, after 4 days in the trunk, are impossible to counterfeit.
    Is the watermark mold in the shape of the virgin Mary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris437 View Post
    Is the watermark mold in the shape of the virgin Mary?
    One special sandwich per week shall have Subway's BVM watermark. The holder of that sandwich will win an all expense paid trip to NAC A (luggage and lodging expenses apply) in beautiful Des Moines, Iowa.

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