Creative attack in Y14 Chang vs Lee Final Bout

[mrbiggs]

When they start enforcing it, you let me know.

Occasionally, refs enforce it. As far as I'm concerned, it's in the same category as carding for blade bend where yes, it's in the rule book, but you're really just wasting everyone's time by paying attention to something which is 99% irrelevant to the fencing.

[TooLoftheDeviL]

Still in the rules as of 2008 rules book. Anti-blockage machines have been around for a real long time. The rule still exists.

To enforce this rule, you'll need to show that grounding the lame is actually possible on the machine. Touching the blade to their lame would no longer suffice.

For me personally, I would have to additionally also see some sort of intent on the part of the offending fencer to ground the lame with the purpose of not being able to be scored upon.

And with that said, I would not have carded Mr. Chang on this action, for this reason or any other.

[contre-Sixte]

The action looks very nice. However, I want to see Chang try it at 14-14. Chang is a small boy, fleching down the strip with a blade which is effectively 3 inches long. I think almost anyone who has the presence of mind to stop to his shoulder (or back) will enjoy a one-light victory.

[Superscribe]

Or duck.

Or be taller than a 14 year old.

My favorite is the (right hander) jump, do splits in air, make touch between the legs.

Lee should have done this flying love stick, when Chang was trying the scorpian.

Chang should have then seen this flying love stick, and then do "front back" (balance beam) splits on the ground, hoping to have Lee come down on his scorpian.

Lee then finishes by tucking into a front flip, touching Chang on the back with extended point while Lee is upside down. Lee asks "is there no one else?!" and chucks mask.

They were both asian. They could have probably accomplished this.

[mrbiggs]

To enforce this rule, you'll need to show that grounding the lame is actually possible on the machine. Touching the blade to their lame would no longer suffice.

It actually is possible, if the fencer touches their blade to their lame and you hit them while maintaining contact with their blade.


It's not something that's going to happen in a bout.

[edew]

Or duck.

Or be taller than a 14 year old.

My favorite is the (right hander) jump, do splits in air, make touch between the legs.

Lee should have done this flying love stick, when Chang was trying the scorpian.

Chang should have then seen this flying love stick, and then do "front back" (balance beam) splits on the ground, hoping to have Lee come down on his scorpian.

Lee then finishes by tucking into a front flip, touching Chang on the back with extended point while Lee is upside down. Lee asks "is there no one else?!" and chucks mask.

They were both asian. They could have probably accomplished this.

I think I saw this scene in Bruno.

[Goldgar]

It actually is possible, if the fencer touches their blade to their lame and you hit them while maintaining contact with their blade.

It's not something that's going to happen in a bout.

I've seen a particular fencer with an odd style cause it to happen repeatedly in bout after bout.

[engarde]

Wow! There is a kid after my own heart. Unfortunately, T53, grounding the foil against the metallic vest, touch annulled, yellow card. As kool as it is, if you were to score with it, it should not count for that reason and a card would have to be issued whether it hit or not.

This is one of a few creative actions I gave Jerry and his brother Jason to play with. Jerry is the more experimental / risk taker, so it didn't surprise me to see him try it first in competition. When done correctly, it is absolutely legal. I am surprised that he pulled it off from that distance though. I wouldn't have tried it starting from that distance myself, but he pulled it off as a remise. The fencer should still have control of the weapon, and it should not be like a pool cue resting on the shoulder - and yes - this is 'the scorpion' ...

[Craig]

and yes - this is 'the scorpion' ...

What's his fatality move?