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    commentary

    Ok, I wanted to do another epee bout commentary or two today, as I have the day free and I haven't done one in a while (been out of country or working). Any particular requests? I'm somewhat limited to those on CyrusofChaos's account.

    Happy 4th, everyone!
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    Another Tagliariol bout? Perhaps the finals with Jeannet?

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    As requested:

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpo7O8SVRVQ[/YOUTUBE]


    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoESlHlWxC8[/YOUTUBE]
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    Nice! It was fun to go back and rewatch the bout with commentary. I liked your comments on how Tagliariol slows down the pace of his fleche attacks, giving him enough time to either go for a different target or gain control of Jeannet's blade.

    I haven't watched too many of his bouts, but he seems willing to give up a couple of touches at the beginning of bouts. Just his way of getting into it or a strategic move to either get some information or set something up later on?

    Tomas

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    I honestly think he's getting information. I agree, he does seem to do it relatively frequently.
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    I LOVE these, thanks. They are very instructive and help me think about what my coach is teaching me because I can see it used very well by the best fencers in the world. I can see what Harmenberg is talking about in Epee 2.0 when I watch these, too. Which leads me to my question - does anyone have any footage from before Harmenberg "destroyed" classical epee? I am too young to have seen what he was talking about.

    Finally, on Tagliariol's 10th touch I am looking and looking but don't see the false step backwards.
    The pen may be mightier than the sword, but why pick just one?

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    I was expecting commentary a la Mystery Science Theater 3000. Instead, I actually learned things that might improve my fencing. Awesome show, great job!
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    How about a commentary on the 2006 WC Men's Individual Epee final? For that matter, any matches with Wang (CHN) would probably be equally informative. He has a weird style, and I don't think I'm understanding what he's doing (or trying to do) half the time.
    Have: Leon Paul Blades Size 9.5 used, good condition, 2 RH L Uhlmann Visconti, 1 RH M Uhlmann Visconti, 1 RH M Uhlmann clone Visconti
    Want: FWF Epee Points/Barrels, other random epee crap. Trade?

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    Very informative and helpful. I've gotten a lot out of each one that you've done so far. Thanks a lot for doing this!
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrainingDummy View Post
    I LOVE these, thanks. They are very instructive and help me think about what my coach is teaching me because I can see it used very well by the best fencers in the world. I can see what Harmenberg is talking about in Epee 2.0 when I watch these, too. Which leads me to my question - does anyone have any footage from before Harmenberg "destroyed" classical epee? I am too young to have seen what he was talking about.

    Finally, on Tagliariol's 10th touch I am looking and looking but don't see the false step backwards.
    I found Riboud, this must be a little after JH, but you'll get the idea. I like modern fencing better,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXojPXBFms

    Riboud was a legend though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivlobane View Post
    I found Riboud, this must be a little after JH, but you'll get the idea. I like modern fencing better,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXojPXBFms

    Riboud was a legend though.
    Yeah that's some sweet bladework but I like modern epee better after watching that.
    The pen may be mightier than the sword, but why pick just one?

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    Finally, on Tagliariol's 10th touch I am looking and looking but don't see the false step backwards.
    Hmm, you're right, less of a step back, more of a pause.
    "Preparation is the soul of tactics. And tactics are the soul of fencing."-Aladar Kogler

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