God bless the U.S.

[thereom4]

No matter how much I complain (and I can because I vote ) there is nothing like the U.S. There really isn't. I count myself very blessed to have been born here and to be an American. Just look at what's going on in Iran. Landslide my behind. They have a mad man running their country, a true mad man. On a lighter note: How do you just shut down a country's Facebook

[erik_blank]

Just remember taht the madman that is running the country is notthe one that was up for election.... Actually, in a VERY strange turn of events, the religious leader that actually RUNS the country has called for an investigation into the results of the election. I can't really believe that this person wants to have Ahmenajad routed from office, but at the same time I think that Ali Khamenei (the Iranian 'Supreme Leader) is a pretty savvy operator and knows whn he sees a public ground swell and how o pull their leaders into the open.

[thereom4]

Really? When did this happen? Checking now....

[thereom4]

the religious leader that actually RUNS the country has called for an investigation into the results of the election.

I should know that. Poli-Sci 101. Calling self a stupid American.

[pigeonmeister]

An unelected body stealing the vote for a conservative...that would never happen in the US

[Wingate85]

No it would not.

[erik_blank]

An unelected body stealing the vote for a conservative...that would never happen in the US

No, what would NEVER happen is if a conservative party somehow managed to steal the vote, and THEN demand a re-count to see if there was fraud....

[trickery dickery dock]

No matter how much I complain (and I can because I vote ) there is nothing like the U.S. There really isn't. I count myself very blessed to have been born here and to be an American. Just look at what's going on in Iran. Landslide my behind. They have a mad man running their country, a true mad man. On a lighter note: How do you just shut down a country's Facebook

Finally something we agree on!

Too bad our spineless excuse for a president isn't sending troops in to free the people.

[thereom4]

An unelected body stealing the vote for a conservative...that would never happen in the US

Touche. But the difference here is that our voices are not silenced. Our speech is protected. We can disagree with the majority one year, have an election the next and become the majority. We can mobilize and rally around our choice of candidate w/o governmental interference.

We can agree that the Bush years were a wash (if this is your opinion) and he "stole" the election. But I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason (this is not up for debate ) and good or bad he was our President. BTW he was elected the second time, so.......

Disclaimer: I voted for Gore, though truth be told Bush almost got my vote the second time around.

[thereom4]

Finally something we agree on!

Too bad our spineless excuse for a president isn't sending troops in to free the people.

How many wars would you like us to be in? Just asking.

[erik_blank]

Finally something we agree on!

Too bad our spineless excuse for a president isn't sending troops in to free the people.

Wow... What an interesting statement...
Setting aside the attack on our current commander in chief's ability to stand upright without a brace, and the implied idea that a nation seeing an influx of (in their eyes invading infidels) wouldn't instead turn on the foreign troops...

If I remember correctly, Iran has a pretty large standing army, with estimate of between 400,000 and 650,000 in the army directly and another approximately 300,000 in reserves..

With all of our forces currently deployed in the pacified areas of Iraq and Afghanistan, just where are we going to get the minimum 499,999 other front line troops that would probably be needed to "free" these people from their home land? Can I assume that you would be volunteering for he honor of being in the front lines of the "liberating" forces?
What about the need for future occupying forces to establish and maintain order while we deal with the one or two (or hundred thousand) religious extremists that we will definately create through this attack on Islam?

Seriously, do you even take a second to think about what you say before spewing your tripe?

[erik_blank]

Oh, wait, I forgot who I was talking to... The use of logic would only go to prove to him that his truth was all that more valid since it comes from faith instead of facts...

[trickery dickery dock]

How many wars would you like us to be in? Just asking.

As many as it takes to make us safer and spread freedom.

Eric- We have better weapons: smart bombs, the worlds best Air Force, and nuclear weapons. We would destroy those arab terrorists, and how dare you insinuate that our brave men and women are losers.

[jeff]

Trickery, are you really suggesting that we nuke Teheran because they had a falsified election? Kill a few hundred thousand civilians in a country with which we're not at war... a war crime without a declared war. Or any other belligerent action, which would uselessly inflame the entire world against us. Nope, the best option is to do what the administration is doing - point out the lack of freedom, and let Iranians decide what to do with their own situation. That, after all, is the essence of what political freedom is based on. They have to deal with their own situation. You don't 'spread freedom' like peanut butter.

However, if you're so gung ho on armed conflict, I suggest you drop out of school and sign up. Your military service age, and there's no impediment to you backfilling our already overtaxed brave men and women in the military.

[Phaeton]

How do you just shut down a country's Facebook

On my limited understanding it's all pretty simple. Facebook owns a range of IP addresses. The addresses are required as IP addresses to be listed. Iran just has to find out and block that entire swathe of addresses and people can't access the site. All they got to do is talk to the Iranian ISPs

They could even be more extreme and ban every single IP adress listed in ARIN. That would black out the entire United States. If you have a firewall (such as IBMs old Black Ice Defender, Outpost Pro, Squid, etc.) you can make your own mini Iran. Just load up IPs you wish to block...and block them.

[thereom4]

As many as it takes to make us safer and spread freedom.

Eric- We have better weapons: smart bombs, the worlds best Air Force, and nuclear weapons. We would destroy those arab terrorists, and how dare you insinuate that our brave men and women are losers.

Who do we have to bomb to make your dream come true?

[thereom4]

You don't 'spread freedom' like peanut butter.

Awesome!

However, if you're so gung ho on armed conflict, I suggest you drop out of school and sign up.

They wouldn't take him. The military has standards.

[thereom4]

On my limited understanding it's all pretty simple. Facebook owns a range of IP addresses. The addresses are required as IP addresses to be listed. Iran just has to find out and block that entire swathe of addresses and people can't access the site. All they got to do is talk to the Iranian ISPs

They could even be more extreme and ban every single IP adress listed in ARIN. That would black out the entire United States. If you have a firewall (such as IBMs old Black Ice Defender, Outpost Pro, Squid, etc.) you can make your own mini Iran. Just load up IPs you wish to block...and block them.

What a trip.

[trickery dickery dock]

Trickery, are you really suggesting that we nuke Teheran because they had a falsified election? Kill a few hundred thousand civilians in a country with which we're not at war... a war crime without a declared war. Or any other belligerent action, which would uselessly inflame the entire world against us. Nope, the best option is to do what the administration is doing - point out the lack of freedom, and let Iranians decide what to do with their own situation. That, after all, is the essence of what political freedom is based on. They have to deal with their own situation. You don't 'spread freedom' like peanut butter.

However, if you're so gung ho on armed conflict, I suggest you drop out of school and sign up. Your military service age, and there's no impediment to you backfilling our already overtaxed brave men and women in the military.

If things were right, it would be a declared war, because president hussein and his liberal regime in congress would have the spine to declare it.

You seem to forget how they have been trying to destroy Israel for the past 30+ years, and now they're within 3 years of getting the weapons necessary to do it. Do you want to stand by and let another Holocaust happen? And let the Holy Land be descecrated by terrorist scum?

Seriously, have you ever been to Israel? If you ever get the balls to do it, you'll know what it's like. I've been there a few times, and I know what it's like to be on the front lines-they live it every day. While I'm not in the military, I know many people who are and my church supports them (we have a penpal program, donation program, and job placement program). What have YOU ever done for our troops?

[trafl926]

If things were right, it would be a declared war, because president hussein and his liberal regime in congress would have the spine to declare it.

You seem to forget how they have been trying to destroy Israel for the past 30+ years, and now they're within 3 years of getting the weapons necessary to do it. Do you want to stand by and let another Holocaust happen? And let the Holy Land be descecrated by terrorist scum?

Seriously, have you ever been to Israel? If you ever get the balls to do it, you'll know what it's like. I've been there a few times, and I know what it's like to be on the front lines-they live it every day. While I'm not in the military, I know many people who are and my church supports them (we have a penpal program, donation program, and job placement program). What have YOU ever done for our troops?

I've never had sex with a goat but I've supported 8 of my friends who have sex with goats. I even held the goat once for him. What have to do to goats lately?

Palestine democratically elected Hamas awhile back. The people wanted that. That's democracy. Maybe Iran wanted this guy. You can't say the election was falsified yet just because you don't like who the people wanted. You certainly can't invade based on that justification.