A lucid explanation of an earlier thread...

[fatfencer]

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/04/...dgar-j-steele/

Discuss.

FF

[erooMynohtnA]

Point: You hate Jews.

Counterpoint: You're a racist.

Good discussion

By the way, Arabs are semitic too.

[fatfencer]

Point: You hate Jews.

Counterpoint: You're a racist.

Good discussion

By the way, Arabs are semitic too.

Or was this merely a knee jerk reaction? I thought his blog to be insightful and informative into his line of thinking.

Not necessarily my line btw. I find my feelings towards jews to be a mix of admiration, concern, and mistrust of them as a corporate entity. On an individual level I find them to be as tolerable as I do anyone else. I certainly feel I have a milder set of feelings than the blog author.

Note he does point out certain similarities with the data from Outliers by Gladwell, vis-a-vis his experience with lawyering.

FF

[latenight]

Or was this merely a knee jerk reaction? I thought his blog to be insightful and informative into his line of thinking.

Not necessarily my line btw. I find my feelings towards jews to be a mix of admiration, concern, and mistrust of them as a corporate entity. On an individual level I find them to be as tolerable as I do anyone else. I certainly feel I have a milder set of feelings than the blog author.

Note he does point out certain similarities with the data from Outliers by Gladwell, vis-a-vis his experience with lawyering.

FF

I am about the most apolitcal person in the world. But this just proves any douchebag can have a blog. It really doesn't mean anymore than a pimply teen twittering about how they think the hot English teacher wants them. People should just use the internet for what it is best at.....porn.

[erooMynohtnA]

Key points of his discussion:

"At this moment, Jews are doggedly trying to craft a deadly virus that will select people, such as Arabs, for their DNA differences from Jewish DNA."

"Most lawyers are [Jewish], you know.... Statistics simply are not kept as to the percentage of Jews in this profession or that."

"the so-called Holocaust"

"America’s borders are kept wide open to a flood of illegal immigrants, purposely, apparently to dilute the population (why else?), thereby making us more easily controlled."

"There are far too many problems with the official 9-ll story. The only real question is whether the US or Israel was really behind it."

Congratulations. You're a Korean White Supremacist.

[I_luv_saber]

It just... won't... die.

[fatfencer]

Key points of his discussion:

"At this moment, Jews are doggedly trying to craft a deadly virus that will select people, such as Arabs, for their DNA differences from Jewish DNA."

"Most lawyers are [Jewish], you know.... Statistics simply are not kept as to the percentage of Jews in this profession or that."

"the so-called Holocaust"

"America’s borders are kept wide open to a flood of illegal immigrants, purposely, apparently to dilute the population (why else?), thereby making us more easily controlled."

"There are far too many problems with the official 9-ll story. The only real question is whether the US or Israel was really behind it."

Congratulations. You're a Korean White Supremacist.

Dude, considering that of the hundreds of people I've beat up over the years almost all of them were White.. I'd say you were way off base. I've only fought 4 blacks, 3 Chinese, couple of Mexicans, Handful of Koreans. In the ring and on the street I hated them all equally.

But if I haaaad to be truthful, I'd say whites, in general, are not my fave race. Perhaps that has something to do with how pervasive 'anti-anything other than white' sentiment is where I'm from. Those guys are so white they make GERMANS look black.

Whites individually are fine people. Collectively...with power? Not so good.

So I'm not a Korean WHITE Supremacist. I think I'd categorize myself as a Korean AMERICAN Supremacist. I truly believe this is the best country in the world and we have inherited all that was and is history. In truth, I'd even drop
the 'Korean' from that phrase. Yes I speak Korean, yes I do TKD, I even eat KimChi, but none of those things really BIND me to Korea.

I believe any sub-culture, ANY subculture that puts their own ancestral country before the one they live in should be banished.

The mexican illegals are a pox on this country, bankrupting us and sucking us dry. Our social services are completely depleted.

The jews? Yeah they're clannish, and anytime a leader of say.. Israel is quoted to have said that they control the US... yeah I find that atrocious. I find it wrong. Ariel Sharon has said many negative things about the US and how they control us. They've supplanted our interests with their own.

Its about time America wakes up to that fact. We don't need to do anything about it though. We just need to put people in office who are immune to their way of thinking and to their agenda, whatever it may be. We just need to buy back our media so that we can have less biased coverage of the Middle East.

There are plenty of jews who say the same about their own culture. Chomsky was a brilliant man... he's one of them.

I think Obama may be a man who is immune. I hope so. The whole bowing to the Saudi King thing has me shaking my head though. I don't get it. Don't know why it happened but it shouldnt have. Maybe it was inexperience?

Regardless, it is about time people realize our borders are sieves and our leaders thus far have been far too 'pro-jew'.

FF

PS: The statistics on attorneys in the US was a topic Gladwell dealt with in Outliers.

[DavidX]

I am about the most apolitcal person in the world. But this just proves any douchebag can have a blog. It really doesn't mean anymore than a pimply teen twittering about how they think the hot English teacher wants them. People should just use the internet for what it is best at.....porn.

This is almost everything a post should be - funny and completely devoid of any manner of useful content.

Tip o the hat to you sir.


(Ha! I've done it David X officially owns fnet!)

((TASTE MY STEEL MO FRACKIES!))

[fatfencer]

for the ORIGINAL POST.

Not one bit of out of line language. The blog I posted a link to may be disagreeable to many but guess what? That's politics for you.

I suspect life in England has our Gav in a bit of a fascist rut, what with all the cameras on every street corner, no gun rights, etc. I'd be grumpy if I were him too. All the good beer in the world can't disguise the horrid, awful, stuff that is English Cuisine.

Nyyyyyaaaaaahhh at Gav.

FF

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLD3Z6sJWA

[Inquartata]

I find my feelings towards jews to be a mix of admiration, concern, and mistrust of them as a corporate entity. On an individual level I find them to be as tolerable as I do anyone else. I certainly feel I have a milder set of feelings than the blog author.

And yet, methinks the lady doth protest too much...

Dude, considering that of the hundreds of people I've beat up over the years

Oh, brother...

But if I haaaad to be truthful, I'd say whites, in general, are not my fave race. Perhaps that has something to do with how pervasive 'anti-anything other than white' sentiment is where I'm from. Those guys are so white they make GERMANS look black.

"Magua's heart is twisted. He would make himself into what twisted him."

Whites individually are fine people. Collectively...with power? Not so good.

And I'd guess that "some of your best friends are whites and Jews"?

I believe any sub-culture, ANY subculture that puts their own ancestral country before the one they live in should be banished.

So, pretty much all of them, then?

[telkanuru]

This word "lucid".... I don't think it means what you think it means.

[fatfencer]

So, pretty much all of them, then?

So you are asserting that every subculture in the US puts its own above the interests of the US?

Prove it. I don't even think you could prove 'most' or 'many'.

[fatfencer]

This word "lucid".... I don't think it means what you think it means.

I think that we can both agree on what twink means....

Fatfencer

[thereom4]

I think Obama may be a man who is immune. I hope so. The whole bowing to the Saudi King thing has me shaking my head though. I don't get it. Don't know why it happened but it shouldnt have. Maybe it was inexperience?

You sound like an ignorant person which is why I decided to reply to only this part of your post. Did it ever occur to you that President Obama bowed out respect for his culture. You do know what culture means right? So no it's not inexperience it's respect and knowledge of other people's cultures.

In other countries bowing is done out of a sign of respect, although I did not see the Saudi king reciprocate. In my parents culture, bowing even kneeling (for men) and curtsying (for women) is BIG. I was born here but my parents definitely taught us that. I have even caught myself curtsying a few times, felt kinda stupid but its something that's ingrained in me. You say you're Korean right? I'm not aware of the practices in the Korean culture but I know that bowing is big in many other Asian cultures. This was not the stupidest thing you've said but I just thought I'd respond to this as the rest deserves no comment. Educate yourself and while you're at it pass on that information to the rest of the misinformed beings like you.

[fatfencer]

[QUOTE=thereom4;794851]

You sound like an ignorant person which is why I decided to reply to only this part of your post. Did it ever occur to you that President Obama bowed out respect for his culture. You do know what culture means right? So no it's not inexperience it's respect and knowledge of other people's cultures.

YOU sound white, and no real understanding of the cultures youre talking about.

In other countries bowing is done out of a sign of respect, although I did not see the Saudi king reciprocate.

There isnt one country out there where bowing is traditional that it ISNT reciprocal.

Yes I'm Korean... a place where bowing is obligatory except where one person isn't aware of Confucian rules. Like in this case they would likely just shake hands.

FF

[thereom4]

[QUOTE=fatfencer;794908]

YOU sound white, and no real understanding of the cultures youre talking about.



There isnt one country out there where bowing is traditional that it ISNT reciprocal.

Yes I'm Korean... a place where bowing is obligatory except where one person isn't aware of Confucian rules. Like in this case they would likely just shake hands.

FF

Do you have the swine flu or something because you sound delirious? Under this circumstance alone will I pardon your stupidity. I sound white? Wow! You truly are a fool. You know I planned on retiring as a college professor but it's not too early to start living the dream.

I am African American. African because my parents are from Africa and American because I was born in America. Fools like who only take offense to the bow because you have some sense that everyone else in this world should be subservient to us. Hmmm.........sounds kinda familiar. Slavery much? How do you justify this type of human indignation? Claim that you (figurative 'you') are better than the peoples you are trying to oppress. Please, please if you do anything with your life I suggest you read a book, and not one with pictures.

[Inquartata]

So you are asserting that every subculture in the US puts its own above the interests of the US?

Prove it. I don't even think you could prove 'most' or 'many'.

Where to start?

Is there one which you think doesn't?

[fatfencer]

[QUOTE=thereom4;794932]

Do you have the swine flu or something because you sound delirious? Under this circumstance alone will I pardon your stupidity. I sound white? Wow! You truly are a fool. You know I planned on retiring as a college professor but it's not too early to start living the dream.

I am African American. African because my parents are from Africa and American because I was born in America. Fools like who only take offense to the bow because you have some sense that everyone else in this world should be subservient to us. Hmmm.........sounds kinda familiar. Slavery much? How do you justify this type of human indignation? Claim that you (figurative 'you') are better than the peoples you are trying to oppress. Please, please if you do anything with your life I suggest you read a book, and not one with pictures.

Maybe youre black, maybe you aint. You still sound white. Maybe you're Alfonso Ribeiro. Or Alvin Poussaint.

Neither of them are 'bad' but they surely sound white. I suspect Alvin has better rhythm...

I digress.

Regardless of color, President Barack Obama's not of a culture that uses bowing as a form of respect.

Moreover, the Saudis aren't known for bowing.

Moreover, typical protocol for Heads of State doesn't include one bowing towards another. Unless the bowing is reciprocated it implies, even in those cultures that use bowing, like mine for example, that the person bowing is 'lesser' and the person not bowing is 'greater'.

You perhaps might be a college professor. But you have little understanding of those cultures that bow and why they do so.

I'm mid way thru an MBA in Finance... unless your tenure involves studying Confucian mannerisms or those cultures that involve bowing (North African cultures typically do not bow in any sense of the word) then perhaps neither of our advanced degrees matter much here.

What probably does weigh is my Bachelors in East Asian Studies (Summa, btw) versus your nothing..... BTW, if you must know my other BSc was in Economics, again Summa. I TA'd Korean thru graduate level in College which included classes on culture, Confucian Etiquette, Roles of Animism and Daoism in Korean Culture, etc.

But again, prima facie, you are black. Even if you WERE white it would be the same. Black Americans, like White Americans have no bowing in their culture. Your professorship also means nothing here.

Moreover, I'd have even less respect for your tenure if you taught African Studies.... many campuses around the US during the mid 90's, when African Studies was coming into its own, were posting flyers during Black History Month claiming the 'blackness' of such notables as

1) George Washington (not Carver)
2) Beethoven (the premise was that his father had an improper dalliance with a slave girl... in AUSTRIA!!!!
3) Jesus Christ (because like most 'Israelis' they aren't white and therefore black..
4) Einstein...(who SUPPOSEDLY had a distant relative who was black... so therefore he was a little black)

5) J.S. Bach... I don't even remember the reason for this one...

This sticks in my mind so much because I was paying $25000.00 per year to hear this bull**** so that 'black americans could feel better about themselves'.(Per the Chair of African Studies...)
I've heard of revisionist Herstory, but I drew the line at Einstein.

So I hope that, for your sake, you don't teach African Studies. Because if you do I'm going to extract much joy out of castigating and lambasting you until I feel I have extracted, via proxy, my money back for all the bull**** I had to listen to at that liberal hellhole.

Finally, in some small way, I'm glad you're not white. Too many whites in fencing.

Inquartata ALONE is already too much white.... he makes Elmers Paste look.... black.

Fatfencer

[fatfencer]

Where to start?

Is there one which you think doesn't?

Hey its not my burden. You asserted. YOU prove and do the homework you so readily push on others. Th irony is most of the time it is YOU doign the asserting.

Don't make me think for you. Try to find a culture that is topical and start there...

Fatfencer

[Inspector Gadget]

I hated to do this, but I reported this thread as being a hate thread. Hiding behind the American flag to disguise your inability to live in a community with other people is cowardly. You shouldn't bother fencing in that case; you'll never make it, there are so many people on the strip who come from other nations. How would you expect to ever fence in nationals, how could you ever imagine to fence internationally?