A lucid explanation of an earlier thread...

[Wingate85]

Did I mention the fact that Israel has world class fencers (not bad for a country the size of NJ). Oh yes and those Shin Bet and Mossad guys are also very good at Jew Jitsu.

[fatfencer]

"Can I have a ride?" I asked the Jewish dwarf subhuman after I beat him humiliatilingly in fencing, the most martial of all arts.
"I would but I have to go molest children (boys), fatfencer" said the degenerate loser. My lips clamped down on my cigarette, snapping it like so many of his bones. He peeled out of the parking lot in his rusty white van, as I planned my revenge.

I adjusted my fine Italian suit and took off behind his van. He saw me coming and sped up. I lengthened my gait to keep up, still gaining manfully on him. My feet beat the ground in the staccato rhythm of a face-stomping he would soon receive. I pushed my run to from what was to me a mild jog to a medium sprint and blew past him. The supersonic shockwave blew him into a ditch like child being blown away by a grenade I threw at them.

As the pedophile got up to his door, the knob turned--but from the inside. He looked inside and saw his entire family had been sentenced to death by kick-in-the-nuts. I emerged like a slim, stylish, Italian-suited shadow from behind the door. "Oh no!" he cried, collapsing sobbingly at my feet like a sack of especially depressed subhuman potatoes.
"Caveat emptor" I said with smirkily wit as I smirked wittily. I crooked my finger back to form a pretend gun with my hand, pointing my index finger (now the barrel) at him and firing into his face, but not really killing him, for I am no murderer. (But he actually did die because my hands are secretly guns, and plus he was asking for it)

Any moment now I expect to be reading in the news that you and 9 other whiteys treed a single Hmong, killing him, and calling it self-defense. Ahh the glories of Wisconsin living.

You have a scary amount of time on your hands. You need a job.

FF

[erooMynohtnA]

A laser dot moved it's way up to my arm and onto my face. I jumprolled to the side evasively as a tracer screamed past my head like an angry hornet and blew up a tree behind me. I saw nine whiteys surrounding me and carrying automatic laser guided machine guns. "We got you now boy, you ain't got nothing, darn Hmong." Little did they know, I, fatfencer, was armed with the 8 deadliest weapons of muay thai (but also I am not a Hmong, in fact, I'm barely Korean). I stood up and adjusted my fine Italian suit, allowing them to get their aim. They fired and I hit back the bullets like a skilled tennis player returning several volleys. Of bullets. Eight whiteys lay dead at my feet, but the ninth bullet had penetrate my defenses. I smeared on some kwan loong oil on the bruise it had given my abs of steel, stopping only to admire the sheen it gave my washboard for several delicious moments, and gave chase to the last.

I pounced upon him like a jaguar. He had run several miles while I was lubing up like a finely tuned sex machine. He gasped "Please, I didn't know you were, fatfencer, world martial arts grand marshal, not even Hmong, or really barely Korean."
"Let this just be a warning," I replied, grinning toothily at him. I then triple spin punched him through the chest, and whispered in his dying ear "A warning that you're DEAD!" (He then died.) A wry smirk crossed my face and the last thing I did was wittily quip, "caveat emptor," as hauntingly and as a becalmed sea over his motionless, crumpled form.

[I_luv_saber]

2 DE's doesnt really prove much of anything. Dont you worry. Ill be back in the fall.

Was I the only one who started hearing the Rocky theme in my head?

[jeff]

Jeff-

Why are you still here?

Everyone else agrees with you, and you're not convincing him.

What is there to win?

Well, I had to make sure that nobody thought "we drove home together" the way he expressed that. Eeew.

Beyond that, you're quite right, and I see no reason to repeat the arguments he's incapable of responding to without denial or outright untruths. For example, now he denies that he portrays "intellectual faggotry" as a term used in academia, when he specifically represented it that way: when fencerchica said "I'm completely unfamiliar with this formal definition you've put forward for "intellectual faggotry" as a phrase with a specific technical meaning" used in liberal arts program, he continued to elaborate on it instead of admitting it wasn't any such thing, and then FF said to Inq "Intellectual faggotry is a real term".

It's a pity, because I'm sure there are interesting things he could say if he weren't so wrapped up in his ego and his desperate need to portray himself as Superman above we mere mortals, and to be insulting every chance he gets. Oh, Tony: we've never fenced in a DE, and I beat everybody in the club on a consistent basis. The difference is that the score is close with DM and CM, and a wide margin with you.

So, I'm done communicating with him. He can carry on his attention-seeking Tourette's syndrome without my participation. I hope that the time between now and October when I face the dubious privilege of running into him at fencing gives him the opportunity to reflect and maybe grow up a little

[Fencer X and Y]

A laser dot moved it's way up to my arm and onto my face. I jumprolled to the side evasively as a tracer screamed past my head like an angry hornet and blew up a tree behind me. I saw nine whiteys surrounding me and carrying automatic laser guided machine guns. "We got you now boy, you ain't got nothing, darn Hmong." Little did they know, I, fatfencer, was armed with the 8 deadliest weapons of muay thai (but also I am not a Hmong, in fact, I'm barely Korean). I stood up and adjusted my fine Italian suit, allowing them to get their aim. They fired and I hit back the bullets like a skilled tennis player returning several volleys. Of bullets. Eight whiteys lay dead at my feet, but the ninth bullet had penetrate my defenses. I smeared on some kwan loong oil on the bruise it had given my abs of steel, stopping only to admire the sheen it gave my washboard for several delicious moments, and gave chase to the last.

I pounced upon him like a jaguar. He had run several miles while I was lubing up like a finely tuned sex machine. He gasped "Please, I didn't know you were, fatfencer, world martial arts grand marshal, not even Hmong, or really barely Korean."
"Let this just be a warning," I replied, grinning toothily at him. I then triple spin punched him through the chest, and whispered in his dying ear "A warning that you're DEAD!" (He then died.)

What about Caveat Emptor?????? That was the best part of every story.

[erooMynohtnA]

I felt like it was boxing me in. But, whatever the people want. I take requests. (By PM please, I don't want any surprise endings getting ruined.)

[fatfencer]

[QUOTE=jeff;802767]

Well, I had to make sure that nobody thought "we drove home together" the way he expressed that. Eeew.

Yeah everybody thinks that we are somehow gay together. I don't think so. Mr Mxtylplk in Brokeback Fencing? Possibly, but not with me... Leave me out of your gay tendencies.

Beyond that, you're quite right, and I see no reason to repeat the arguments he's incapable of responding to without denial or outright untruths.

Oh no, I've dealt with them but you refuse to admit your wrong. Even despite mounting evidence you vainly flail at the notion that jews are somehow not as we have discussed them to be in various threads. And Jews are supposedly educated... please. They regularly are but you? No. Evidence beats trumped up pseudo logic any day.

For example, now he denies that he portrays "intellectual faggotry" as a term used in academia, when he specifically represented it that way: when fencerchica said "I'm completely unfamiliar with this formal definition you've put forward for "intellectual faggotry" as a phrase with a specific technical meaning" used in liberal arts program, he continued to elaborate on it instead of admitting it wasn't any such thing, and then FF said to Inq "Intellectual faggotry is a real term".

Dude for the last time its a slur I made up to describe what happens all to often in academia and , frankly, discussing things with you. Granted I've been using that term since college... I ****ing STILL hate Women's Studies.

It's a pity, because I'm sure there are interesting things he could say if he weren't so wrapped up in his ego and his desperate need to portray himself as Superman above we mere mortals, and to be insulting every chance he gets.

If you haven't started in with the 'anti-semite' you and the others wouldn't have gotten 'Jew-****'. I never fail to treat like for like. I admit its a weakness but its soo much fun.

Oh, Tony: we've never fenced in a DE, and I beat everybody in the club on a consistent basis. The difference is that the score is close with DM and CM, and a wide margin with you.

I meant a 15 touch bout. Rumor has it you havent been to the club more than 1-2 times a month and Marchant just recently came back. So I dont know what consistent means to you. Drew ebbs and flows...but hey that's their fencing careers. I'll let them defend their results against you. Like I said I'll have my redress later. Believe me, I can wait.

So, I'm done communicating with him. He can carry on his attention-seeking Tourette's syndrome without my participation. I hope that the time between now and October when I face the dubious privilege of running into him at fencing gives him the opportunity to reflect and maybe grow up a little

Jeff, you are a punk. Plain and simple. A bitter, old, flatulent little punk. A has been that never was.. who knows you may at one time been a decent fencer... nah.... but you were never a martial artist worthy of the term. Internet macho...

My ego is confined to MA, debate theory, and here, inasmuch as people want to try and convince me that fencing is an MA and they tout their 3 years of experience. Then they get a healthy dose of said ego. Hey, if you were as good at fencing as I am at MA you'd OWN the club you currently pay dues at.

Hint: I'm not Superman in an absolute sense... but relative to you? Definitely.

If people like you would just agree that fencing isnt an MA we'd all get along quite nicely. But when I've stopped coaching MA longer than your entire MA career, frankly you aren't worthy of carrying my jock as far as MA is concerned.

You should argue less about this stuff and fence more... while you still have a little lead left in your pencil.

FF

PS: Did you see Obama's speech yesterday? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

[I_luv_saber]

Dude for the last time its a slur I made up to describe what happens all to often in academia and , frankly, discussing things with you. Granted I've been using that term since college... I ****ing STILL hate Women's Studies.

You say here (post #125) it's a real term:

Its actually not what you say it is.

Intellectual faggotry is a real term. Even if it were argumentatively fallacious, its still most certainly applicable.
{snip}

My emphasis.

I would hardly call made up terms "real terms" (which implies the term and it's meaning is generally accepted and known)..

If you haven't started in with the 'anti-semite' you and the others wouldn't have gotten 'Jew-****'. I never fail to treat like for like. I admit its a weakness but its soo much fun.

And if you hadn't started with anti-Semite slur and propaganda, you wouldn't have been burned by just about everyone on this board and called out for being (*gasp* you guessed it) an anti-Semite. Whether you are or not a racist I honestly have no idea... but the crap you are spewing is racist. Period.

[erooMynohtnA]

You say here (post #125) it's a real term:

I would hardly call made up terms "real terms" (which implies the term and it's meaning is generally accepted and known).

Aside from the fact that you're obviously right, are you really going to bring semantics to an argument with a man who denies outright facts?

For instance, I give you two quotes by fatfencer, bolded for emphasis because of how ridiculously stupid they are when put together:

"You know, quite honestly there isn't anyone in the USFA that can kick my ass in a no holds barred fight."

"The other thing is your comment that you can kick everyones ass on this forum is ridiculous.It shows perception of a small child claiming his father is the strongest in the world."

When I pointed out my perceived contradiction by asking "are you sure?" the response I received read "Yeah, I'm pretty sure...willing to bet money on it too." Whatever that means.

[I_luv_saber]

True, I suppose... I dunno, there's some sort of self-reward in bringing these things to the forefront though....

[telkanuru]

True, I suppose... I dunno, there's some sort of self-reward in bringing these things to the forefront though....

I really really don't want to hear about you rewarding yourself, thanks.

[fatfencer]

[QUOTE=I_luv_saber;802967]You say here (post #125) it's a real term:

My emphasis.

I would hardly call made up terms "real terms" (which implies the term and it's meaning is generally accepted and known)..

No it implies merely that its real. I use it. Been using it since college. I'm suprised the term doesnt get more use considering what passes for scholarly effort around here and in lib arts programs... " i dont need to get evidence"

And if you hadn't started with anti-Semite slur and propaganda, you wouldn't have been burned by just about everyone on this board and called out for being (*gasp* you guessed it) an anti-Semite. Whether you are or not a racist I honestly have no idea... but the crap you are spewing is racist. Period.

Burned? Hardly, you called me an anti semite. I called you a pathetic excuse for a Jew. I started beign called and anti semite because I didnt capitalize Jew in one post. What is it with Jews and Revisionist history? The funny thing is is almost everyone who has argues with me so vehemently, you, Hauptman, Jeff, etc. have ALL eventually capitulated in re some of if not all of my main theses:

1) Israel shouldnt be supported by the US financially during these hard times

2) AIPAC has too much power and has an agenda different and not necessarily good for the US.--- This was jeff just a few posts ago.

I had advanced points like these from the beginning. You guys decided to make something racial out of it hoping i'd back down. That's what Jews do. They ban together and make a cause out of it, light verbal signal flares, etc.
Guess what? I don't give two ****s about the Jews collectively. I judge people individually.

Here's something that should really frighten you as a Jew. Non muslim Asian populations are larger than American/Western Europe. They are growing faster and living longer. AND, for the most part, Asians seem indifferent to the plight of Jewry around the world. In Asia, 6 million dying is like a daily occurence. While I dont pretend to speak for all of Asia... I have a pretty good idea what their mindset must be.

Combine that with the world's Muslim population.... either they don't like you, or they just don't give a ****.

What happened 60 odd years ago is an atrocity. Mentioning that the Jews, collectively(and merely for the sake of arousing spirited political discussion), have too much power in the US and are affecting institutions like the media with said power.... well the way I was treated was poor. Those aren't racist sentiments. they are true statements.

So, I dig in. I don't shy away from fights, verbal or otherwise. White people, Jew or otherwise, calling ME racist after suffering a lifetimes worth.. its on you little ****. Now I will be racist, largely because you ASKED for it.


Meanwhile, now the Jews are likely going to be forced into a two state solution... or else you will begin to see America pull away from Israel. Now the Jews actually have to learn how to do something they havent been able to do since the inception of Israel as a state...share the land without putting any stipulations on it. No more Zionism...no more effete snobbery disguised as merely being pro Jew...

Thank God for Pres. Obama. All that Arabic money was good for something after all. Maybe in my lifetime I can visit Jerusalem and practice my faith without worrying about immoral Jewish settlements causing car bombs that kill tourists. Maybe someday i'll be able to practice my faith without you guys getting in the way with your never ending petty squabbling. All in the name of Zion...eek.

Why anyone,(Russians, French, US) give Israelis guns is an outrage. Would have been over long ago if the world had just picked a side and stuck with it.


Fatfencer

[I_luv_saber]

No it implies merely that its real. I use it. Been using it since college.

And I can call idiots harbleskobblewinkers, but that doesn't make it a real term.

Burned? Hardly, you called me an anti semite. I called you a pathetic excuse for a Jew. I started beign called and anti semite because I didnt capitalize Jew in one post.

For what it's worth, that's not why I stepped into the debate in the first place. I pointed it out, sure, but that's by no means why I got involved.

What is it with Jews and Revisionist history? The funny thing is is almost everyone who has argues with me so vehemently, you, Hauptman, Jeff, etc. have ALL eventually capitulated in re some of if not all of my main theses:

1) Israel shouldnt be supported by the US financially during these hard times

2) AIPAC has too much power and has an agenda different and not necessarily good for the US.--- This was jeff just a few posts ago.

No, I have not, because that's not what I was arguing against. I was arguing against 1) your blatant racism, and 2) your assertion the media is controlled by the Jews. I was not really arguing against these two points, and indeed, if that's all you had said, you know as well as I this thread wouldn't have turned into the monster it became.

I'm not sure I agree with either of these points, but they certainly deserve merit and debate. But I think you are misunderstanding what we all are arguing against (mostly). You take an agreement (or at least some degree of it) in an area which you were never really disagreed with to be a "win" in a completely different argument. This is... puzzling to say the least.

I had advanced points like these from the beginning. You guys decided to make something racial out of it hoping i'd back down. That's what Jews do. They ban together and make a cause out of it, light verbal signal flares, etc.
Guess what? I don't give two ****s about the Jews collectively. I judge people individually.

I'm... not Jewish

What happened 60 odd years ago is an atrocity. Mentioning that the Jews, collectively(and merely for the sake of arousing spirited political discussion), have too much power in the US and are affecting institutions like the media with said power.... well the way I was treated was poor. Those aren't racist sentiments. they are true statements.

Let me be clear: There is a very big difference between what you just said above... believing AIPAC has too much power... and from believing in some crazy hair-brained mass Jewish conspiracy. You are trying to play a victim when you are clearly not. If you really want, I can make a "FF's Greatest Hits" post and put together all you said. You know as well as I that's not "simply all you said".

Can you really not see the difference between what you are saying now and what you were saying then?

So, I dig in. I don't shy away from fights, verbal or otherwise. White people, Jew or otherwise, calling ME racist after suffering a lifetimes worth.. its on you little ****. Now I will be racist, largely because you ASKED for it

No, I think you see a fight where none exists, and you get stubborn, refusing to have a true debate and meaningful discussion, and rather try to be the "winner" at any and all costs, including making yourself look like an ass (God forbid you listen to anyone else... could be a sign of weakness).

[Craig]

Some people need to take their chill pills.

Closing this thread due to the sheer number of ad hominems in one place.

Craig