Sum.Nat's -- team registration?

[Redblade]

When you're registering a fencing team for Summer Nationals, is it a singular form and/or fee or is each team member required to go through the process?

[Sinestra]

When you're registering a fencing team for Summer Nationals, is it a singular form and/or fee or is each team member required to go through the process?

For team, there's one form to fill out for your club's entry, where you list the names of the people competing and designate a team captain. Every member of your team still has to fill out an individual entry form regardless--even if only competing in the team portion. If that's the case, just circle "team only" and send in the $50 registration fee with your form.

All the forms can be found here:
http://fencing.teamusa.org/content/index/4260

[fdad]

For team, there's one form to fill out for your club's entry, where you list the names of the people competing and designate a team captain. Every member of your team still has to fill out an individual entry form regardless--even if only competing in the team portion. If that's the case, just circle "team only" and send in the $50 registration fee with your form.

All the forms can be found here:
http://fencing.teamusa.org/content/index/4260

What should fencers do if they are not yet sure they will be part of the team? For instance, they go to a club with a lot of potential competitors but no one is sure yet who will stick around for the team events. Is it enough for them to register for individual events, as long as the club registers the team?

[Soberin]

What should fencers do if they are not yet sure they will be part of the team? For instance, they go to a club with a lot of potential competitors but no one is sure yet who will stick around for the team events. Is it enough for them to register for individual events, as long as the club registers the team?

I believe the answer is yes. Register for the individual events and let the club (coach) register the team. The coach can make the team at a later date.

[Redblade]

Thank you.

[hello?]

I believe the team captain has to tell the bout committee who the team members are by 3 P.M. the day before the event (then tell them the team is 'ready' on the day of the event).

[teacup]

Even though it isn't necessary for the team members to be listed on the team entry form, each team member needs to be registered as an individual. So if someone is not doing an individual event and not sure if they will be on a team, they would still need to register as an individual to be eligible for a team event.

[ladyofshalott99]

Wouldn't it be better to contact the USFA directly with respect to this question, rather than relying on secondhand advice from an Internet forum?

[lewis]

Wouldn't it be better to contact the USFA directly with respect to this question, rather than relying on secondhand advice from an Internet forum?

Well yes it would. But the usfa does lurk here at least unofficially and people do actually respond to questions - unlike the info@usfencing or even the actual people who run the events.

I have emailed the usfa a couple of times in the last couple of weeks as well as looked at the 'qualifier' info and the handbook. I wouldn't swear I didn't miss it but I can't figure out about the TEAM stuff with respect to how a fencer belongs to a "club'. The college fencers all fence unattached all year and then often represent a club at SN in the team events. So I assume any unattached fencer can do this. But how? Rumor has it that you have to attach and then fence one competition representing that club - say the Pomme or the Mr. Ma Cup - other people claim you can just sign up at Nationals - and thus be very popular for a couple of days.

Does anyone know the answer to this or have a suggestion about where to look. I know ask the usfa and read the handbook but I did that and am no wiser. Thanks. L

[fdad]

Well yes it would. But the usfa does lurk here at least unofficially and people do actually respond to questions - unlike the info@usfencing or even the actual people who run the events.

I have emailed the usfa a couple of times in the last couple of weeks as well as looked at the 'qualifier' info and the handbook. I wouldn't swear I didn't miss it but I can't figure out about the TEAM stuff with respect to how a fencer belongs to a "club'. The college fencers all fence unattached all year and then often represent a club at SN in the team events. So I assume any unattached fencer can do this. But how? Rumor has it that you have to attach and then fence one competition representing that club - say the Pomme or the Mr. Ma Cup - other people claim you can just sign up at Nationals - and thus be very popular for a couple of days.

Does anyone know the answer to this or have a suggestion about where to look. I know ask the usfa and read the handbook but I did that and am no wiser. Thanks. L

This is in the USFA Athletes Handbook

Club Representation and Affiliation

The term “club”, as used in these rules, includes any organized fencing group of individual members. The group may be affiliated with a club, industrial institution, association, or other entity. A recognized club is one that has a relatively stable organizational structure and membership, a place for regular fencing activity, and preferably a professional fencing master for lessons and training. The division affiliation of a member club shall be the primary location where its regular fencing activity is conducted. A club may only be a member of one division.

A distinction is made between club “affiliation” and “representation.” A fencer may be affiliated with more than one club but can represent only one of them (except as provided for below) in USFA competitions during one fencing season.

1. A fencer may at any time resign from one club and join another, or join or hold membership in two or more clubs. However, within the same fencing season, no fencer may represent in competition more than one club without special permission of the Board of Directors. The fencer’s first stated club affiliation at a USFA competition in each fencing season will determine that fencer’s club representation for that season.

2. A college or scholastic fencer, who is also a member of another recognized club, may represent his or her school in dual meets and other interscholastic or intercollegiate competitions, and also represent the other club in USFA competitions. In addition, if the rules of his or her school conference require it, he or she may represent his or her school or fence unattached in all USFA individual competitions held during the school fencing season or, in the case of collegiate fencers, during the period in which NCAA rules regarding playing dates have jurisdiction. Such fencers may represent their club during the other portions of the fencing season.

Fencers who represent their club after having represented their school during the fencing season must represent their club for the remainder of that fencing season. Fencers who represent their school outside the dates when required to do so, must represent their school for the remainder of the fencing season. Under no circumstances can fencers represent both their school and their club at any one National Championship tournament.

3. A fencer who, while a member of a recognized club, elects to fence unattached, may not be permitted to represent any club during the remainder of the season in individual competition, and may not compete in team competitions except as noted above for collegiate fencers in NCAA schools.

All fencers should notify the National Office of all club affiliations at the start of the fencing season or as such club affiliations change. They should also notify competition organizers of such affiliations even if representing another club (or school) or fencing unattached for reasons given above. Competition organizers should apply the same criteria for separating fencers with the same club affiliations as they do for fencers with the same club representation.

If a fencer represents a club that closes during the season with no plan of reopening in the future, or if a fencer makes a permanent move of physical residence into another geographical area that fencer may request to have his or her club representation changed, subject to approval. The resignation of a coach, conflict within a club, or change of affiliation due to either will not be recognized as justification to change club representation. A fencer in this situation will have to either remain with his or her stated club or fence unattached for the remainder of the season.

[Redblade]

Wouldn't it be better to contact the USFA directly with respect to this question, rather than relying on secondhand advice from an Internet forum?

Rule: Trust (reliable sources), but verify.