Establishment of Point in Line

[walrus418]

There has been some discussion and disagreement in our club about how and when the point in Line (PIL) is legitimately set (for both saber and foil). The physical desciption of what it looks like it is clear; how to get it set in the midst of a fencing phase seems problematic (especially for saber).

It seems to me that if Fencer A attacks but the attack falls short, Fencer A could set the PIL at that point. However, in saber once the attack falls short, Fencer B could theoretically begin an attack since the attack by Fencer A is over once the front foot hits the ground. I suspect the answer lies in the distance between the fencers and the amount of fencing time that transpires during the elements of the fencing phrase.

During the defense I believe a Fencer B can set PIL at any time and it would be valid as long as the Fencer A has not yet initiated an attack.

I look forward to seeing where this doiscussion goes.

[fdad]

Originally Posted by walrus418

I look forward to seeing where this doiscussion goes.

That makes one of us.

[DavidX]

Originally Posted by fdad

That makes one of us.

gaaahahahahha

[vivoescrimare]

Couple of statements/suggestions.

1.) Your post doesn't really contain a question, you are therefor unlikely to receive any real answers, merely assorted jabs and smart remarks.

2.) This subject has been discussed in excruciating detail several thousand times on this forum. I think you'll find more enlightening responses if you use the search function. Alternatively, scroll to the bottom of this page, and check the associated threads.

[notalent]

Originally Posted by fdad

That makes one of us.

Your not looking forward to another round of beating of non living equines?

[noodle]

here is a brief summary of what the next 10-20 pages worth of discussion will contain:

yes, you can and do technically establish PIL if you leave your arm out correctly after an attack, as long as your opponent isn't attacking already, both weapons. successfully executing and selling this action to a ref in a bout is difficult and unlikely to actually happen in the wild.

[peet]

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[AndrewH]

I think noodle's post is dead-on. Lock please?

[Peach]

Originally Posted by AndrewH

I think noodle's post is dead-on. Lock please?

However, the post omits the important elements of random thread-drift, captioned pictures, ad hominem remarks, assertions of fact by people who don't have any idea what they're talking about, links to outdated information, and irrelevant clowning.

[Goldgar]

Originally Posted by Peach

However, the post omits the important elements of random thread-drift, captioned pictures, ad hominem remarks, assertions of fact by people who don't have any idea what they're talking about, links to outdated information, and irrelevant clowning.

Fortunately, it's not too late!

[Peach]

Originally Posted by Goldgar

Fortunately, it's not too late!

Somebody had to throw herself in front of the train. It might as well be me.

[bob46]

Originally Posted by Peach

Somebody had to throw herself in front of the train. It might as well be me.

ill be the conductor. choo choooooo...

[trafl926]

Peet is amazing...


PIL has to be up for two beats(fencing tempos)

why?

Step-lunge = attack, out of step-lunge distance = no attack

step lunge = two beats

taa daa

[epeeslasher]

[TooLoftheDeviL]

Originally Posted by trafl926

Peet is amazing...


PIL has to be up for two beats(fencing tempos)

why?

Step-lunge = attack, out of step-lunge distance = no attack

step lunge = two beats

taa daa

And we were doing so well too...

[noodle]

[erooMynohtnA]

[erooMynohtnA]

[AndrewH]

Originally Posted by trafl926

PIL has to be up for two beats(fencing tempos)

why?

Step-lunge = attack, out of step-lunge distance = no attack

step lunge = two beats

taa daa

[Grasshopper]

When fighting bears with a katana in each hand, there is no PiL. Only the points and lines of bloodly scars left on the survivor.


(Sorry, couldn't resist.)