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10-07-2002, 02:37 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 491
| US Fencing Membership Application privacy
Why does the USFA ask for our Social Security Numbers on their membership application?
Unless the USFA will be contributing to our retirement, I really don't see how it's any of their business. | 
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10-07-2002, 03:15 PM
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#2 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: May 2000 Location: The valley of the -hot- sun, NorCal
Posts: 3,184
| For certain USFA events, entry is restricted to US Citizens or permanent residents.
Asking for the social security number might be how they track it.
Though they do ask the question as to whether you are a permanent resident or not, some people could lie and try to enter those events. I guess with the SSN it's harder to lie... | |
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10-07-2002, 03:16 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 382
| Re: US Fencing Membership Application privacy
Quote: Originally posted by fencerX
Why does the USFA ask for our Social Security Numbers on their membership application?
Unless the USFA will be contributing to our retirement, I really don't see how it's any of their business. |
It's a voluntary section, I've spoken to them about it before. | |
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10-07-2002, 04:24 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 491
| Quote: Originally posted by veeco
For certain USFA events, entry is restricted to US Citizens or permanent residents.
Asking for the social security number might be how they track it.
| Since a Social Security Number proves neither US citizenship nor permanent residency, that wouldn't be a very good reason, now would it?
Catal, when you spoke with the USFA about it, did they give you their supposed reasoning behind asking for it? | |
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10-07-2002, 05:17 PM
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#5 | | Scavenger
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,658
| Every dern thing in the USA asks for your Social Security Number. You have to give it all the time. It has become a joke that it's not a universal identification number, and even more of a joke that its use is restricted. | |
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10-07-2002, 06:47 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 382
| Quote: Originally posted by fencerX
Since a Social Security Number proves neither US citizenship nor permanent residency, that wouldn't be a very good reason, now would it?
Catal, when you spoke with the USFA about it, did they give you their supposed reasoning behind asking for it? |
No reason was given. I was told only that I didnt have to give my SSN if I didn't feel comfortable with it. | |
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10-08-2002, 12:52 AM
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#7 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Somewhere in your nightmares!
Posts: 23,538
| I too withheld my SSN and they used an invented ID number instead.
Yeah, despite the fact that SSNs weren't supposed to be used as ID numbers, they have become just that. However, they instances where they are REQUIRED and there are no alternatives are comparatively few. Usually I just leave blank the space asking for it on any form apart from tax-related ones... | |
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