NOC/ROC News & 2009-2010 Bid Packet

[hello?]

-talk to your division officers,)

I have volunteered as a Division Officer for four years. But thanks for the suggestion.

[seak]

I just noticed (from the USFA newsleter email) that next year's ROC application deadline is in ten days. Is this for real? Do most tournaments already know their dates for next year and if they want to apply?

Cap Div doesn't set dates and elect a new board till at least July/August.

[noodle]

I just noticed (from the USFA newsleter email) that next year's ROC application deadline is in ten days. Is this for real? Do most tournaments already know their dates for next year and if they want to apply?

Cap Div doesn't set dates and elect a new board till at least July/August.

date was announced in portland. its on the bid packet, which has been available for a while now online.

[seak]

Yeah I don't have much to do with it, so I didn't really bother to check, but it was on the top line of the newsletter, I saw it, and it struck me as really weird/early. So I wondered what other people thought.

[noodle]

Yeah I don't have much to do with it, so I didn't really bother to check, but it was on the top line of the newsletter, I saw it, and it struck me as really weird/early. So I wondered what other people thought.

i think the date is really early, but i also understand where the USFA is coming from with this one.

i think that perhaps a better system would be something rolling, have an early deadline for 2-3 events to be held in the first half of the season, and a later deadline for 3-4 events to be held in the second half of the season.

[oiuyt]

date was announced in portland.

It was also mentioned in this very thread about 3 weeks earlier than Portland.

-B

[teacup]

i think the date is really early, but i also understand where the USFA is coming from with this one.

i think that perhaps a better system would be something rolling, have an early deadline for 2-3 events to be held in the first half of the season, and a later deadline for 3-4 events to be held in the second half of the season.

I agree, there should be at least two submission dates. The same should be done for requests to host SYC tournaments.

[oiuyt]

I agree, there should be at least two submission dates. The same should be done for requests to host SYC tournaments.

That makes it significantly harder to achieve regional balance (or at least to fully evaluate options when regional balance across the entire season is a desideratum) and significantly harder for athletes (and parents, coaches, etc.) to plan a season competition/travel schedule.

There are positives and negatives to both.

-B

[noodle]

It was also mentioned in this very thread about 3 weeks earlier than Portland.

-B

fair enough, i didn't follow the process before i read the packet in portland.

[noodle]

That makes it significantly harder to achieve regional balance (or at least to fully evaluate options when regional balance across the entire season is a desideratum) and significantly harder for athletes (and parents, coaches, etc.) to plan a season competition/travel schedule.

There are positives and negatives to both.

-B

my biggest problem with the packet was the requirement (more or less) to have a venue and date set. while i can see that maybe this is doable for the biggest of the big events that have the momentum in their favor (i.e. money backing them already and little division politics), it seriously discourages new events despite the fact that the bid packet says new ones are welcome.

[teacup]

That makes it significantly harder to achieve regional balance (or at least to fully evaluate options when regional balance across the entire season is a desideratum) and significantly harder for athletes (and parents, coaches, etc.) to plan a season competition/travel schedule.

There are positives and negatives to both.

-B

Yes, there are pros and cons but having only one bid submission date didn't achieve regional balance with the SYC events.

Another later submission date could give those regions that don't have a close NOC/ROC/SYC time to put a bid together.

Once the system and/or events are established perhaps then there could be one early submission date.

Then again which model are the NOC/ROC/SYC regional events using? The US model of rotating locations or the European/FIE model of having established events at the same location and dates each season. (Currently the SYC's which have been chosen are a combination of both tournament models which has lead to problems.)