new to fencing - tactical confusion

[Inquartata]

What is "RSI" ( which I notice you capitalized )?

[TBean]

so, you're an internet troll? sweet, welcome to the forums, we need more of those.

Think of it this way, he has saved you the bother of actually having to read anymore of his posts. Just place him on your ignore list now.

[noodle]

What is "RSI" ( which I notice you capitalized )?

repetitive stress injury. i capitalized it to indicate it was an acronym, which i've found seems to reduce confusion, otherwise people tend to try and just read it as a word and don't understand.

[Inquartata]

Ah. Like carpal tunnel syndrome.

Probably, then, you also don't use a Blackberry or text on a phone? Or signal turns and lane changes while driving? Etc.? Those all seem like obvious ways to reduce it...

The speed rationale I don't buy, though. That one boils down to what I've opined before: Placing personal convenience over consideration for one's reader...which, when one is trying to convey information, seems like a bad option to me.

[tchwojko]

Being concise saves more motion than avoiding the shift key.

[noodle]

Ah. Like carpal tunnel syndrome.

Probably, then, you also don't use a Blackberry or text on a phone? Or signal turns and lane changes while driving? Etc.? Those all seem like obvious ways to reduce it...

The speed rationale I don't buy, though. That one boils down to what I've opined before: Placing personal convenience over consideration for one's reader...which, when one is trying to convey information, seems like a bad option to me.

i don't use a blackberry and rarely text. i like how you compare reaching for a turn signal to keyboard typing. something that i do 30 seconds a day compared to something i do 12+ hours a day. thats like going to mcdonalds, ordering 4 double cheeseburgers and getting a diet coke because you're trying to watch your weight.

buy the speed rationale or not, if you like. doesn't matter to me, i tested it for myself. fewer keystrokes for the same number of words = faster typing.

i can parse out text without the excess capitalization just fine, and you'll find that most people can, as well. typically the people who "can't" are the people who also "don't like it". perhaps thats backwards -- they "don't like it", so they "can't".

Being concise saves more motion than avoiding the shift key.

yep.

[Inquartata]

i don't use a blackberry and rarely text. i like how you compare reaching for a turn signal to keyboard typing.

It was a question, you may not have noticed...

something that i do 30 seconds a day compared to something i do 12+ hours a day.

You work 12 hours a day?

And still have time to hang out on f.net?

Man, and I thought that I had no life...

buy the speed rationale or not, if you like. doesn't matter to me, i tested it for myself. fewer keystrokes for the same number of words = faster typing.

I dion't say that I doubted the truth of the statement. I said that I didn't buy the rationale. That is, the rationale that your personal "speed" or "saving" outweighed the need for clarity...

i can parse out text without the excess capitalization just fine, and you'll find that most people can, as well. typically the people who "can't" are the people who also "don't like it". perhaps thats backwards -- they "don't like it", so they "can't".

Never said I couldn't. I said it makes it more difficult to read than properly written text. And that sends a message: That you have no respect for your readers.

Normally I don't bother to read your posts, because of those things. Don't flatter yourself that you somehow have superior reading comprehension skills, or impute nonexistant deficiencies to mine...

[noodle]

It was a question, you may not have noticed...




You work 12 hours a day?

And still have time to hang out on f.net?

Man, and I thought that I had no life...

come on, you're bing purposefully obtuse. i'm on the computer 12+ hours a day. i'm at work (on a computer) at least 8 of those.

I dion't say that I doubted the truth of the statement. I said that I didn't buy the rationale. That is, the rationale that your personal "speed" or "saving" outweighed the need for clarity...

and what i was saying is that there is very little actual clarity lost with respect to reading ability and comprehension. the clarity that you're losing is because you have a personal problem with lack of caps that distracts you from the content.

Never said I couldn't. I said it makes it more difficult to read than properly written text. And that sends a message: That you have no respect for your readers.

Normally I don't bother to read your posts, because of those things. Don't flatter yourself that you somehow have superior reading comprehension skills, or impute nonexistant deficiencies to mine...

shrug. thats your call. read my stuff or not. i'm not implying i have superior anything, or that you are somehow deficient. i'm saying that you have the ability to read my text just fine. you just seem to have non-caps text as a pet peeve, and i'm saying that you shouldn't try and imply that it is anything more or less than that. you don't like it, thats fine. i'm going to keep doing it.

[Inquartata]

and what i was saying is that there is very little actual clarity lost with respect to reading ability and comprehension.

"Very little" is not "none", and even a little is too much, did you but hold your readers' comfort in as high a regard as you seem to hold your own.

the clarity that you're losing is because you have a personal problem with lack of caps that distracts you from the content.

And you just KNOW that this is limited to me....how, exactly?

i'm saying that you have the ability to read my text just fine.

And should not have to do so.

Look, there's a reason why English has a standard version, and why we are expected to use that rather than each of us just pleasing ourselves with our own private formats. And that reason is that it makes it easier to read and to understand consistently, for all of us, whether or not you choose to believe it.

Clearly, though, you care not at all for your readers here, so why bother posting at all?

Or for that matter, since you're determined to be selfish, why not really save yourself some time and keystrokes? Eliminate all long words and phrases. Drop the second of all double letters ( eg leters ). Don't bother to type silent "e's". Substitute single letters for pairs that make the same sound, like the "gh" in "tough"---just type "tuf". In brief, dispense altogether with proper spelling in favor of the "faster" and "more economical" text-speak...

And you know, you'd save a lot of work for your hands by eliminatingtheuseofthespacebar; much more than eschewing the Shift key.

I mean, surely you'll only lose very little clarity that way...

[Lady Quindecim]

I find I have better point control when I use proper capitalization, and proper punctuation has improved my footwork.

All of this is incredibly relevant to the thread topic, despite what some may think. Proof-reading ones posts is crucial to developing more effective second-intention execution and planning.
^_^

[Inquartata]

Ignoratio elenchi. Tsk!

[noodle]

"Very little" is not "none", and even a little is too much, did you but hold your readers' comfort in as high a regard as you seem to hold your own.

basically, yes. i've had to recover from RSI three times and almost underwent surgery. before the age of 23. i do what i need to do to ensure my personal health while doing the things i enjoy.

And you just KNOW that this is limited to me....how, exactly?

i never said or implied it was limited to simply you. i am only addressing you in this specific instance. you're the only one addressing this.

And should not have to do so.

Look, there's a reason why English has a standard version, and why we are expected to use that rather than each of us just pleasing ourselves with our own private formats. And that reason is that it makes it easier to read and to understand consistently, for all of us, whether or not you choose to believe it.

Clearly, though, you care not at all for your readers here, so why bother posting at all?

Or for that matter, since you're determined to be selfish, why not really save yourself some time and keystrokes? Eliminate all long words and phrases. Drop the second of all double letters ( eg leters ). Don't bother to type silent "e's". Substitute single letters for pairs that make the same sound, like the "gh" in "tough"---just type "tuf". In brief, dispense altogether with proper spelling in favor of the "faster" and "more economical" text-speak...

And you know, you'd save a lot of work for your hands by eliminatingtheuseofthespacebar; much more than eschewing the Shift key.

I mean, surely you'll only lose very little clarity that way...

appeal to tradition fallacy and slippery slope fallacy. all of your suggestions will make sentences unparsable.

i acknowledge that how i write is not formally correct, and when writing in a formal circumstance, i use caps.

once again, if you don't like my posts, don't read them. i very rarely make them in response to yours -- i don't venture into the water cooler. i'm not worked up about this, but it seems to me that you are.

[Inquartata]

Yeah. I'm in law enforcement; I admit to liking people to live within the rules...

But then, you ARE an epeeist.

[iatmyhome]

Hi nice to meet you every body
i love fencing

[Inquartata]

A-HA! Lack of capitalization and punctuation killed the thread!

That's what I'm on about! If people would only realize---

[The Fish]

If you've never been in a fistfight before, you think it's quite easy - you just smack them in the face. Even if they hit you, you can still hit them... there are no rules... no tactics required, right? Clearly not. The simplicity of fencing actually means complex tactical structures are required LULZ

[Wetmelon]

people telling me that sabre is for idiots and epee is all strategy

LOL! Who do I have to go hurt now? There is unbelievable strategy in every weapon, including sabre. Ever try to run at an opponent, holding a sabre and screaming? The dent in your helmet indicates you may have, but obviously it was a bad idea... Don't get fooled into taking other peoples' personal opinions as truth.

And stick with it, or I'll have to break you!

[Wetmelon]

LOL! Who do I have to go hurt now? There is unbelievable strategy in every weapon including sabre. Ever try to run at an opponent holding a sabre and screaming? The dent in your helmet indicates you may have, but obviously it was a bad idea... Don't get fooled into taking other peoples' personal opinions as truth.

And stick with it, or I'll have to break you!

P.s.

"none",

Shame on you for comma splicing! Shun! Shun! (I probably did it somewhere too...)

OOPS!! Sorry for the double post, meant to click edit and hit quote, I guess :/