Legality of screwless points at Junior Olympics

[tikimon852]

So i am a avid user of zip tips because i hate dealing with screws all the time. Im going to jos this year and will have my screwless tips with me for the first time. So knowing how tuff they are there about equipment could anyone tell me if they are leagl to use there. I couldnt find anything in the rules about it but i jsut need to know if i need to go and get some other tips

[Pieter]

I believe they're banned.

[HDG]

FIE has disallowed them, but I'm not sure that USFA is following this. Re-post it in the armory for a more definitive answer.

[tikimon852]

So i am a avid user of zip tips because i hate dealing with screws all the time. Im going to jos this year and will have my screwless tips with me for the first time. So knowing how tuff they are there about equipment could anyone tell me if they are leagl to use there. I couldnt find anything in the rules about it but i jsut need to know if i need to go and get some other tips

[telkanuru]

AFAIK they are illegal for international competition only.

They just suck for everything else.

[catwood1]

They are legal in the USFA.

[Purple Fencer]

Correct.....one of the smartest things USFA did was NOT to follow FIE in lock-step on this issue...the ruling has nothing to do with safety or reliability and everything to do with Dos Santos simply not liking the idea....as if reliability and no screws to lose gives a competitive advantage.

I've heard nothing to indicate USFA will make the screwless tips illegal, so as of now, they're only banned at FIE tourneys...and hopefully Usmanov will try to overturn the ban.

[Purple Fencer]

Screwless tips are totally LEGAL for use at any domestic USFA event...up to and including Summer Nationals.....it's only at FIE events that they're banned.

[oiuyt]

Note that they ARE banned from the upcoming Satellite World Cup in Columbus, OH in early March (entry deadline tomorrow!!).

They are not banned from US Fencing competitions.

-B

[tkexi991]

Note that they ARE banned from the upcoming Satellite World Cup in Columbus, OH in early March (entry deadline tomorrow!!).

They are not banned from US Fencing competitions.

-B

I have fenced a few NACs/Nationals, but I am curious - what other equipment/rules issues are different at the International/FIE competition level vs. the USFA?

Needing FIE equipment is an obvious one, Zip Tips less obvious, any others?

[Nolano]

AFAIK, that's about it. You need your country on your back and your national colors, too.

[Craig]

merged threads (please don't do dupe posts!) and fixed the title to be more descriptive.

Craig

[HDG]

please don't do dupe posts!

I'm sorry Craig; that was my suggestion to the OP.

[downunder]

AFAIK, that's about it. You need your country on your back and your national colors, too.

Only need national colours at some events. For example, you don't need them for this satellite event.

[twisterfencing]

USFA is very relaxed compaired to a FIE competition.

Blades must be FIE approved, must go through various tests; even an ohm test as well as stress test.
Masks must be FIE, not your normal run of the mill club mask. Here in the US, we think nothing of fencing for years in some $60 cheap club masks. In Europe, they think we are crazy for putting our safty at risk over a few bucks. They almost make fun of us on this issue.
Uniform must be a FIE approved uniform at 800 newton. They are so picky at times over this. I was at an event and the weapon control even put up a fuss about the logo inside the FIE stamp tag. They stated it was a form of advertising and was red taged (meaning - not approved).

Now for team events at a FIE meet, everything must be the same all the way down to the socks! One year, we had kids that did not get the memo about socks and showed up with anything and everything. When you are assembling a team bag, you must have the socks to go with them to get stamped as well for approval.

There is alot more, yet this will give you a better ideal of what some of the diffrences are.


Gary Spruill

I have fenced a few NACs/Nationals, but I am curious - what other equipment/rules issues are different at the International/FIE competition level vs. the USFA?

Needing FIE equipment is an obvious one, Zip Tips less obvious, any others?