Bleu Gauntlet Hungarian Grips as Good As Leons?

[wescfencer011]

That is weird.

To me, Belgians have always been the most distinctive of the pistol grips because of the pronouced "prong" in the front. Much more than any other grips including the "Hungarian."

Perhaps it is a translation thing?

One other thing... why are Hungarian grips always small/medium? Kulcsár and his nephew (who uses one also, as I recall) are both pretty big dudes.

R-

smaller girp give the hand and blade a tighter control and response

[Nolano]

Sure. However, if you wear a size 10 glove, there is no way you're going to get your hand around a small sized grip. Even mediums give me cramps.

As small as you can go= good
So small you can't hold it without a lot of pain or completely loss of movement= bad.

[wescfencer011]

If you try to bend parts of the pistol grip, especially when heated, you should make sure it's a grip that you don't mind breaking. A lot of cast aluminum tends towards being brittle, and heating aluminum is not like heating steel. Hot steel bends more easily than cold steel, but aluminum gets 'hot short' which makes it much more likely to break than if it were room temperature.

If you want to bend the rear extension, I'd suggest gentle blows with a rubber mallet against something anvil like (bench vice, metal pipe, whatever). It's still pretty likely that you'll end up snapping off the extension entirely, but you probably stand a better chance of getting it to bend a bit.

as a matter of fact i did heat up my german short grip with a propain torch from home depot and bend it on the tail end. the trick is to watch the color or the metal. once the metal reach glowing gold color , remove heat and start bending little at a time reheat if needed. .......caution....... always keep a spray bottle of water ready to cool metal or put out fire. no dunk metal on water for rapid cooling it may cause the metal to crack

[Nolano]

Uhm. Aluminum doesn't change color until high above it's melting point. A yellowish gold color is 2000+ degrees, aluminum melts at 1220~.

And migopod knows what he's talking about. It may have worked for you, but that's no guarantee it will work for others.

[wescfencer011]

Uhm. Aluminum doesn't change color until high above it's melting point. A yellowish gold color is 2000+ degrees, aluminum melts at 1220~.

And migopod knows what he's talking about. It may have worked for you, but that's no guarantee it will work for others.

it may work for me you are right on that. i did it twice on both of my german grip. but i do notice something last night when i cant my blade and filing down the grip to form good fit to the guard. my german and zivkavic grip are alot harder and take me longer to file it down than the belgium grip i brouht from athos, visg from american fencing supply. i guess is the alloy quality use by ulhmann are harder