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    Quote Originally Posted by nahouw View Post
    I used to fence with a bunch of very older gentlemen that trained with Nadi and Vnce.
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    Oh and the drills?
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    Joseph Vince. http://usfencinghalloffame.com/index...=125&Itemid=52

    as to the drills - you pick whatever parry and riposte combination that you want to work on. for example, the circle 6 with a direct riposte. Fencer A lunges and fencer B steps back, takes a circle 6 and ripostes with a lunge. Fencer A has already recovered from his lunge, takes a step back with a circle 6 and ripostes with a lunge. And so it goes on until someone finally scores a touch. This should be done quickly, almost at bout speed. If you are well coordinated, your arm position is good and your distance is good, after several iterations you will eventually have to either change the timing a bit or use an advance lunge or alter the length of your step back in order to score. Teaches coordination, distance management and timing.

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    A short return to topic

    In the Sports Illustrated of two weeks ago, there was an article about Russian Sport. In the article, a meeting of 22 oligarchs with Putin was described. During the meeting, Putin apparently made clear that great wealth carried with it an obligation to raise the level of Russian sport.

    Does anyone worry that there may be a conflict of interest in having a head of the FIE who is also the head of the Russian Fencing Federation?
    How much of his definition of an improvement of fencing is a return to glory of Russian fencers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwalkerjr View Post
    In the Sports Illustrated of two weeks ago, there was an article about Russian Sport. In the article, a meeting of 22 oligarchs with Putin was described. During the meeting, Putin apparently made clear that great wealth carried with it an obligation to raise the level of Russian sport.

    Does anyone worry that there may be a conflict of interest in having a head of the FIE who is also the head of the Russian Fencing Federation?
    How much of his definition of an improvement of fencing is a return to glory of Russian fencers?
    Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Pozdniakov would be taking over the chairmanship of the Russian Fencing Federation? That would eliminate the conflict-of-interest you spoke of, right?

    As far as Usmanov expressing some bias/preference as a result of his nationality... it's about as likely as it was with Roch, or any past FIE president, yes? Is he known for having a particularly nationalist bend (so much so that it goes above and beyond the norms of patriotism) in his personality?

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    Except that I imagine there's a bit more risk... Russia isn't exactly the least nationalistic of nations. (I debated whether or not to post this, if only because I suspect backlash)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwalkerjr View Post
    In the Sports Illustrated of two weeks ago, there was an article about Russian Sport. In the article, a meeting of 22 oligarchs with Putin was described. During the meeting, Putin apparently made clear that great wealth carried with it an obligation to raise the level of Russian sport.

    Does anyone worry that there may be a conflict of interest in having a head of the FIE who is also the head of the Russian Fencing Federation?
    How much of his definition of an improvement of fencing is a return to glory of Russian fencers?
    I don't think Usmanov is the head of the Russian Fencing Federation, yet you're correct on the last point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbringer View Post
    Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Pozdniakov would be taking over the chairmanship of the Russian Fencing Federation? That would eliminate the conflict-of-interest you spoke of, right?
    Pozdniakov's title is State Coach of Russian National Fencing Team;
    and Russian Fencing Federation has more bureaucratic titles than an average Fortune 500 Company, yet there is a chairman who is neither Usmanov nor Pozdniakov, and who has never held a blade in his hands IMHO ( a fencing blade that it is).
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    Based on that manifest I'd say this really seems to be a man who wants to improve the sport of fencing. So, will we see tubular epees soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nahouw View Post
    Joseph Vince. http://usfencinghalloffame.com/index...=125&Itemid=52

    as to the drills - you pick whatever parry and riposte combination that you want to work on. for example, the circle 6 with a direct riposte. Fencer A lunges and fencer B steps back, takes a circle 6 and ripostes with a lunge. Fencer A has already recovered from his lunge, takes a step back with a circle 6 and ripostes with a lunge. And so it goes on until someone finally scores a touch. This should be done quickly, almost at bout speed. If you are well coordinated, your arm position is good and your distance is good, after several iterations you will eventually have to either change the timing a bit or use an advance lunge or alter the length of your step back in order to score. Teaches coordination, distance management and timing.
    I've done that before; that's a really good drill. It's very reminiscent of the "glove game", except with blades involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbiggs View Post
    I've done that before; that's a really good drill. It's very reminiscent of the "glove game", except with blades involved.
    Tried it yesterday - really makes you zoom in on minuscule deficiencies.
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    Hi!

    Quote Originally Posted by ysbadadden View Post
    Does anyone know anything about him -- he was a fencer (when? how good? -- not that it matters)
    I recall reading on a Swedish fencing website that he describes himself as a former sabre fencer, strictly low-level. He retained a love for the sport, and one he struck gold, decided to give time and money to his old love.

    Quote Originally Posted by ysbadadden View Post
    How did the US vote? And why?

    If we believe him, he's not going to roll back the rules just because he wants to: he's going to initiate a broad public debate among experts. Do we believe him?

    Whatever happens, it's not business as usual.
    Before the previous vote, in which Roch won over Usmanov, it was stated in a Swedish fencing organizational meet that Sweden was supporting Roch - on Renés own merits, not the demerits of the competition. Goes to show that different things are values in different places.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson View Post
    Hi!



    I recall reading on a Swedish fencing website that he describes himself as a former sabre fencer, strictly low-level. He retained a love for the sport, and one he struck gold, decided to give time and money to his old love.





    Peter Gustafsson

    Correct I believe he was on Uzbeki Jr. Saber team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downunder View Post
    None of the international foilists I've personally spoken complain about the timings anymore.
    Maybe you should do a poll.

    Of course, we all know in advance that it will be...
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