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    Glasnost

    From Alisher Usmanov Program:

    http://www.rusfencing.ru/press.php?txt_id=8022

    Genuine dialogue is the means to progress

    The new FIE management team will be working in a mode of consistent constructive dialogue with the fencing community. We are ready to take the responsibility for development, and we are ready to bring the FIE into the position it absolutely needs to be for the good of world fencing.

    My emphasis added.

    Might this be the perestroika and glasnost the world fencing needs? Can you believe it, advocating a DIALOG with the fencing community?

    Hopefully the USFA will not object...

    Dialog, communication, transparency ... not just empty words, we hope!

    Another interesting note: there will be an Executive Director appointed to run the day-to-day affairs of the FIE (after all Alisher has a pretty well paying day job already). So now we have at least two major fencing organizations looking for a high power ED to solve all their problems: FIE and USFA. The parallel is interesting and the results of the search will keep the fencing community at large on pins and needles.



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    And maybe a move back to old sabre timings.

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    Another article on the goods/bads of Usmanov... from our favorite media source!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alisher_Usmanov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Fencer View Post
    So Roch wasn;t able to buy enough votes this time round...GREAT! Hopefully Osamov was reverse soe fo the more retarded Roch-isms....NOT forcing fencers to buy lexan masks would be a start....reversing the bib as target would be a 2nd...removing the restrictions on screwless foil/epee tips a 3rd
    You misspelled his name. It's UBAMOV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabresque View Post
    from our favorite media source!
    As most recently edited by ErooMynohtnA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downunder View Post
    USA news
    Dan takes final place in semi after tieing for 10th place and having to win a barrage.
    Derek cotton on arbitrage
    Wow. I had thought Dan likely to be elected much higher.

    How about Rules or any of the others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    Wow. I had thought Dan likely to be elected much higher.

    How about Rules or any of the others?
    So did everyone. He won his runoff convincingly though.

    For you guys Sam cheris got legal but donald missed out on rules I think. All the commissions were announced at once and I was mostly focused on arbitrage.

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    A couple of excerpts from Usmanov's platform:
    In an attempt to promote fencing, the FIE management has made amendments to rules, and these amendments are often made just a week before major international competitions. The repercussion of this is that, effectively, athletes are losing the skills and mastery that they acquired in previous years. The logical accord between events at the strip and the decisions of referees is gone.
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    But the choice between two candidates is not the issue here. The choice we have to make is a choice between two different systems of planning and management. Two very different approaches. One choice is for a back-handed policy. The other choice that we can make is a choice for transparency, a choice for dedicated management, and for democracy. We need to look beyond mere economic survival. We need a well-thought-out, strategic approach to the development of fencing worldwide. And that can only be done on a basis of sufficient financial resources, and a well-developed infrastructure.
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    Usmanov seems to have a history of shouldering is way into things with money, and silencing critics with legal action. But this may just be his day job.

    One might hope he'll treat his hobby a little more gently.

    AE

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt View Post
    As most recently edited by ErooMynohtnA.

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    With all his other responsibilities one wonders how much time he will have to spare for this new job...

    I will not make the optimist's mistake and claim that whatever happens he cannot be worse than Roch. But I am cautiously optimistic. For the nonce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    With all his other responsibilities one wonders how much time he will have to spare for this new job...
    In his manifesto he basically stated he won't directly do anything, just make sure a team of people actually in running things does what he wants.
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    Just who voted for who will be interesting. It was my impression that Roch brought about fencing federations anywhere an airplane could be landed just so he could get reelected.

    Another interesting aspect. There has been a requirement that individuals could not continue to hold posts in their fencing federation if they were, for example, on the Executive Committee, or was it on commissions. Or will that be now reversed. Particularly with regard to the Italians who have been reported to take posts.
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    My guess is that he had strong support from the Euro countries (East and West). They had to like the money he brought to the Euro championships as head of Euro fencing. Also the developing countries were FOF has made inroads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheck View Post
    And maybe a move back to old sabre timings.
    That would be an overwhelmingly negative consequence, I think. New timings are great for sabre. Foil on the other hand would greatly benefit from a reversion to the old timings.
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    I think something in between now and then would be better for sabre.. the new timings are very difficult for any fencer without a wingspan or height advantage. While not completely horrible, turning sabre into a counter-intuitive game of remises and one that wholly relies on defense to me has been a detriment to the weapon in a lot of ways.
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    I totally agree and I think there many others of similar thinking including the new FIE head. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whtouche View Post
    That would be an overwhelmingly negative consequence, I think. New timings are great for sabre. Foil on the other hand would greatly benefit from a reversion to the old timings.
    I certainly would not like it to go back to the time of the 2 second lockout. That was absurd.
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    I would like to see the foil lockout the same, because I don't feel it locks out any legitimate actions and manages to lock out the more retarded marching attacks.

    However, I would like testing done (or the previous testing reviewed) to determine a better tip depression time. I have a feeling it's around 7-10 ms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fencerbill View Post
    I certainly would not like it to go back to the time of the 2 second lockout. That was absurd.
    I think the most was 750ms for the lockout time. It then went down to 350ms and then now to 300ms. I think 435ms would be great.
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