Another mystery foil grip question

[milstdfarm]

Ok experts, tell me what grip this is. I bought this off ebay for our club's practice equipment. It is very old.

I used to use a french grip foil and lately have decided to give pistol grip a try. I've tried the Belgium and the Visconti and I don't like either one. This one feels great in my hand. Unfortunately, this is right handed and I am left handed. I would like to buy a left handed version.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks, Pearce

[Matt]

That's a spanish-offset grip. You can get 'em through Triplette.

Matt

[Purple Fencer]

And to head off the claims....no, this one is NOT illegal.

[TodG]

This is the illegal one:

[Purple Fencer]

Originally Posted by TodG

This is the illegal one:

Keerect....the telling point is that it has a French pommel AND prongs on it...the offset does not....the long extension of the end of that grip would be difficult to hold for extra reach....the bulb of the French pommel is a LOT easier to hold....thus you would not be trading power for reach with the addition of control from prongs on the offset the way you would with the regular Spanish you posted.

[SJCFU#2]

Bear in mind that the rule-of-thumb about grips using an external pommel not being permitted to have protrusions which fix the position of the hand (which excludes just about everything other than a French grip) is only a rule-of-thumb. The actual rule (m.4.6) doesn't mention pommels at all.

M.4.6 requires any grip which incorporates a device, attachment or special shape that fixes the position of the hand must fix it in one (and only one) position with the extremity of the thumb no more than 2 cm from the inside surface of the guard. Since there is no question that the Spanish Offset grip (the one using an internal pommel) has a "special shape" which fixes the position of the hand the question really just comes down to whether or not it can be held in more than one position. Given that I've seen similar grips that could probably be pommeled (for want of a better term) almost as readily as a French grip, I wouldn't consider the absence of an external pommel as being a guarantee that the grip is legal for competition.

[HDG]

Originally Posted by Matt

That's a spanish-offset grip. You can get 'em through Triplette.

Matt

You could also pay much more and get an insulated one from Negrini.

[Stormbringer]

American Fencing Supply also sells the grip pictured as a "Cetrulo".

FWIW, what they (AFS) call a Cetrulo differs in shape somewhat from what they (AFS) call a Spanish offset. Their online catalog has top- and side-views of each grip.