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Old 11-22-2008, 07:44 PM   #21
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In the interest of being helpful as well, to echo what others have said, ignoring pain and injury is foolish business. Take it from the guy with back problems who is recovering from shoulder surgery who never had any injury issues till a couple years ago.

And in the interest of being snarky: Maybe you should try a different weapon? Because 6 years trying to get an E, clearly something isn't working out..
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:57 PM   #22
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Currently I'm a E08, but I'm really pushing to get my C or B by then end of this year. Then Senior year I'll keep pushing for A.
Does it matter that i am A strip for sabre?
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On 11/3/08 you posted that you were already an E08 o_o; Why injure yourself to renew a non-renewable rank? o-o
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:44 PM   #23
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On 11/3/08 you posted that you were already an E08 o_o; Why injure yourself to renew a non-renewable rank? o-o
Rep added!
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You don't even give a full square yet? That's cute. I'll throw some in.
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You don't even give a full square yet? That's cute. I'll throw some in.
As will I...

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Old 11-22-2008, 11:31 PM   #26
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So why is it that people think the rep system needs tweaking again?

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In the interest of being helpful as well, to echo what others have said, ignoring pain and injury is foolish business. Take it from the guy with back problems who is recovering from shoulder surgery who never had any injury issues till a couple years ago.

And in the interest of being snarky: Maybe you should try a different weapon? Because 6 years trying to get an E, clearly something isn't working out..
SORRY IF I MIS-SPOKE BUT:

I meant to say that I hadn't gotten a ranking THIS YEAR. 2008.
2008 has been my laziest year by far.
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On 11/3/08 you posted that you were already an E08 o_o; Why injure yourself to renew a non-renewable rank? o-o
Yes you caught me there... I had an E07...
I was ashamed of my laziness this year but now I am even more that you caught me!
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SORRY IF I MIS-SPOKE BUT:

I meant to say that I hadn't gotten a ranking THIS YEAR. 2008.
2008 has been my laziest year by far.
So you risked the long term health of your knee/leg to change the year on your E?

*Smacks head*


And let the continued flaming of the fence over health choice continue/resume/increase...
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So you risked the long term health of your knee/leg to change the year on your E?

*Smacks head*


And let the continued flaming of the fence over health choice continue/resume/increase...
No no I checked with my doctor. it hurt a lot more then it should have he said, but it will not be serious and should go away in a 1-2 week or so.

Guess i lucked out.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:12 PM   #32
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Well, if it's only a little temporary pain, go ahead and ignore it. It couldn't cause any cumulative damage or anything, and it's more important just to do whatever you want to do.

I mean, that's the advice of some on the "cup" thread, after all.

And I wonder why they don't realize that an E is more important than preventing an injury, when clearly they know that avoiding a bit of "discomfort" is more important than doing avoiding injury...

Whither consistency?
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Injury and pain are different things. Young athletes often can't tell when they are just sore or if they have damaged their body. As such, asking a doctor is a really good idea.
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Injury and pain are different things. Young athletes often can't tell when they are just sore or if they have damaged their body. As such, asking a doctor is a really good idea.
Heh. The old "But that's different!" defense. How novel.

I have actually seen someone knocked unconscious by a groin shot in SCA combat.

Through armor.

Read the section titled "Impact Injuries", and read the recommendations:

http://www.emedicine.com/sports/topic162.htm

Injury from testicular trauma may be rare, but that does not mean they should be disregarded as "just a little temporary pain" to be endured and ignored if you're a real man...
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Heh. The old "But that's different!" defense. How novel.
Pain and injury are different, so it seems like a pretty solid factual defense to me. I don't see anywhere you've disputed it.
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Through armor.

Read the section titled "Impact Injuries", and read the recommendations:

http://www.emedicine.com/sports/topic162.htm
I am not impressed. If you want to debate the merits of ball hits, please take it to the cup thread.
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Injury from testicular trauma may be rare, but that does not mean they should be disregarded as "just a little temporary pain" to be endured and ignored if you're a real man...
I agree. You should never ignore an injury.
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Well, if it's only a little temporary pain, go ahead and ignore it. It couldn't cause any cumulative damage or anything, and it's more important just to do whatever you want to do.

I mean, that's the advice of some on the "cup" thread, after all.
It's not.

Though I am impressed that you managed to combine a false analogy and straw man into a single post, cross-thread argument.

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I am not impressed. If you want to debate the merits of ball hits, please take it to the cup thread.
You are "not impressed" by a doctor's advice...

I don't think that the impression conveyed by that statement is really the one you wanted to convey...
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"If no bony injury is discovered, conservative measures, namely, rest, application of ice for the first 24-48 hours, compression, and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), may be implemented"

Yes, ice your injury, rest, and take some ibuprofen, sounds like cutting edge stuff.
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The computer I'm on won't allow cut and paste, but suffice to say that I think you missed a few sentences from that article...
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