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Seems like we have two different conversations going on here. We have some folks discussing the referee exam and others discussing the Moniteur-Prevot-Fencing Master exams.
Maybe we should take this discussion to the following thread
Referee exam vs Coach exam
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You can fail the ref exam?
How? The only way to atone for being occasionally a little over-dressed is by being always absolutely over-educated. -Oscar Wilde
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I apologize for contributing to the thread drift. This thread WAS interesting.
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 Originally Posted by darius  I apologize for contributing to the thread drift. This thread WAS interesting. Now we got these refs in here...messin' up our talk 'bout the code. They're not pirates...they're scallywags. 
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Originally Posted by MdA Now we got these refs in here...messin' up our talk 'bout the code. They're not pirates...they're scallywags. What about those of us who are both....? That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.
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They are both Pirates and Scallywags? Stick'm, I say.
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Originally Posted by oso97 What about those of us who are both....? Sassypants: a know-it-all
...or better yet
Privateer: a pirate officially sanctioned by a national power
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Originally Posted by telkanuru You can fail the ref exam?
How? mine got graded with the wrong answer key.
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Originally Posted by MdA Privateer: a pirate officially sanctioned by a national power Some of us prefer to be referred to as a "Letter of Marque." It just sounds more genteel.
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Originally Posted by oiuyt Some of us prefer to be referred to as a "Letter of Marque." It just sounds more genteel. I thought that only discribed the warrent issued (hence the term "letter") which made you a privateer.
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Originally Posted by Allen Evans I thought that only discribed the warrent issued (hence the term "letter") which made you a privateer. I'll trust Patrick O'Brian to have historical accuracy on the term being used to refer also to the person with such a letter.*
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* Everyone raise your hand if you know what series of books I'm currently re-reading. "Oh but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
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He's a sailor, not a lawyer. *sniff*
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 Portholes Open and Close Avast all ye Buccaneers and Privateers (not too gent’l), here be ‘nuther reason ….
Portholes (or is that portals?) open ‘n close. Don’t be gettin’ below decks in battle ’r storm.
Originally Posted by MdA Darius,….
You never know what twists and turns life may throw in your path.
…..There will be members of any examination board with whom you may not agree. Don't let this stop you. Originally Posted by Allen Evans …..
I can't help but wholeheartedly agree with Darius. He may travel to Europe and fail the exam....though I suspect he won't have any trouble when he finally goes. However, read between the lines in all of our posts MdA: committing to an exam in Europe is simply shorthand for committing to getting a complete and rounded fencing education by coaches who know the sport. As it currently stands, committing to a USFCA exam is simply committing to an exam.
AE Some of the greatest fencing academies in the world were closed for many years during wars….some were never re-established. Some mentioned in this thread were behind the “Iron Curtain”. In these economic times, future travel to Europe (or living there for an extended time) may be uncertain.
As Allen has pointed out, there were times in the not too distance past, when the USFCA was even more disorganized then it is now. It was nearly impossible to assemble an examination board of three knowledgeable and fair Fencing Masters in the USA. I encourage you to pursue your coaching education during this period of light and relative calm.
The USFCA process is more transparent then ever before…the Prevot and Master pages have just been updated on www.usfca.org...Rick has just informed me that we are waiting on our Bank to pay online with credit cards...they are going kinda slow these days...checking out our non-profit incorporation documents. This function will be online soon ...we ran into some snags and decided to go without PayPal.
More regional training clinics are being hosted around the country. Supporting these clinics supports the development of our own, regionalized, education and training program.
There are Fencing Masters and Prevots willing to help you pass the Moniteur, Prevot and Fencing Master exams. Please take advantage of these times….
…and in the words of the great poet Sammy Hagar; “Hey! Better get it while you got it”
'Black And Blue' lyrics from album 'OU812' by Van Halen, 05/24/1988
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Originally Posted by MdA You can take the Prevot exam at the Gia Foil Clinic on April 5, 2009. You do not need to take the Moniteur exam first. The procedures are the same as the Masters exam process that is attached...except at a lower skill level. Sorry, I jumped on this a little late, but just to confirm... you can jump right to prevot without doing the moniteur test? "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner
"Technical excellence is the antecedant of tactical creativity." - Nat Goodhartz
But those things which belong neither to God nor to Caeser, feeleth free to writeth them off, for yea, they are deductable.
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Originally Posted by MdA I am checking with members of the Certification and Accreditation Board (CAB). You may want to contact me by PM with your specifics. I am looking at some old Examination Easement Policy documents. I want to make sure I am correct. Do you have a Coaches College certification level?
I am also looking at an Equivalency Policy Document from April 2008 which is very current. I am checking with the CAB chairman to make sure I am reading it correctly. I do, but it's just an epee level 1. I also have a 4 in epee, 5 in foil and 7 in sabre for reffing, and have been a full time coach for a few years now, as well as part time for several before that.
Thanks for looking into this; I really appreciate it. I'm planning on attending the Gia Clinic but it will be contingent upon funds and the ability to miss work. "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner
"Technical excellence is the antecedant of tactical creativity." - Nat Goodhartz
But those things which belong neither to God nor to Caeser, feeleth free to writeth them off, for yea, they are deductable.
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Originally Posted by MdA I am checking with members of the Certification and Accreditation Board (CAB). .....
I am also looking at an Equivalency Policy Document from April 2008 which is very current. I am checking with the CAB chairman to make sure I am reading it correctly. "The CAB will allow coaches to choose any level to be tested without prior written or practical exams and certification at lower levels if they can provide some history of coaching experience. By requesting that the coach provide a basic documented biography, we would have a justification for allowing an individual to test at their requested level."
Prévôt has a practical exam in one, two or three weapons.
1.) Your first step is to join th USFCA as an associate member. You can download an application at www.usfca.org and send it to Paul Schimelman, Secretary...or wait a few weeks until the online membership payment/app is operational.
2.) Then you must contact the Chairman of the CAB, Rob Handelman and provide your coaching biography and request to bypass the Moniteur exam and test for Prévôt in one, two or three weapons
3.) Then you must pass the online written exam for Prévôt before the clinic in April 2009.
4.) Register for the USFCA South Regional "Gia" Foil Clinic in April 2009 on AskFred
5.) Attend the clinic and take the Prévôt practical exam in one, two or three weapons on April 5, 2009.
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Additional USFCA clinics in May 2009 Just got wind of three additional USFCA clinics in May 2009 in three different regions, West, South, and Northeast.
San Francisco with Rob Handelman, Peter Burchard and Cole Harkness on or around May 1-3, 2009
Dallas USFCA/AAI clinic with Abdel Salem in Texas (Dallas area) on or around May 8-10, 2009.
New Jersey by Mr. Ma on May 16 & 17, 2009 with Slava Danylov for foil and sabre at...
Fencing Academy of South Jersey
2060 Springdale Road, Suite 200
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
Phone: (856) 424-5070
They will be posted on AskFred when all the details are firmed up.
RIT the SF clinic might work out better for you but you are always welcome in San Antonio.
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Originally Posted by MdA Just got wind of two additional USFCA clinics....more info as it becomes available... in San Francisco with Rob Handelman, Peter Burchard and Cole Harkness on or around May 1-3, 2009 and another USFCA / AAI clinic with Abdel Salem in Texas (Dallas area) on or around May 8-10, 2009.
They will be posted on AskFred when all the details are firmed up.
RIT the SF clinic might work out better for you but you are always welcome in San Antonio. No reason it has to only be one; certification is a minor thing for me but learning is always great. "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner
"Technical excellence is the antecedant of tactical creativity." - Nat Goodhartz
But those things which belong neither to God nor to Caeser, feeleth free to writeth them off, for yea, they are deductable.
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Originally Posted by oiuyt I'll trust Patrick O'Brian to have historical accuracy on the term being used to refer also to the person with such a letter.*
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* Everyone raise your hand if you know what series of books I'm currently re-reading. *raises hand*
Always knew you had excellent taste, Brad. That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.
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Originally Posted by oso97 *raises hand*
Always knew you had excellent taste, Brad. Alright now, ye scallywags or privateers....take your book talk 'ere
Pirate Definitions for the Coaching Corner
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