Sectionals 2009

[Rockstar44]

Dubious.

Phoenix was, as of 2007, the 5th largest city in the US. KC was 168th. Wikipedia's list of the top 15 hubs includes Phoenix but not KC. Phx is also a US Airways hub, and is "served" by a large number of major airlines.

Your point doesn't need that angle to validate it.

Touche'

[Inquartata]

"Spoken like a gentleman, sir. Now, are you going to give me a fish license?"

[fatfencer]

[QUOTE=Inquartata;790730]

Perilously close to tu quoque.

See, I am not the one advocating "the greatest good for the greatest number". YOU are. It's not incumbent upon me to put my money where your mouth is ( so to speak ).

Not so, once you agree to use a standard( you clearly ran with it) within the context of a topic, you too are responsible. Otherwise its a double standard. In addition, if you disagree to a standard you must supply your own. You can never simply negate with a fallacy. How many times must I tell you? Moreover the debate never hinges or comes to a close. Again your debate skills are lacking.

Dubious.

Phoenix was, as of 2007, the 5th largest city in the US. KC was 168th. Wikipedia's list of the top 15 hubs includes Phoenix but not KC. Phx is also a US Airways hub, and is "served" by a large number of major airlines.

Your point doesn't need that angle to validate it.

This is one of the reasons why AZ is a better place to hold it than Kansas. Duh!!! Flights are cheaper... poor albuquerque


FF

[Inquartata]

Not so, once you agree to use a standard( you clearly ran with it) within the context of a topic, you too are responsible. Otherwise its a double standard. In addition, if you disagree to a standard you must supply your own. You can never simply negate with a fallacy. How many times must I tell you? Moreover the debate never hinges or comes to a close. Again your debate skills are lacking.

There you go again, thinking that anyone is going to believe any of that because you say it's so...

You are truly a legend in your own mind.

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[Rockstar44]

This is one of the reasons why AZ is a better place to hold it than Kansas. Duh!!! Flights are cheaper... poor albuquerque


FF

Not for us...ha ha ha.

[SabreReedfrost]

I'm just going to let you folks fight it out over this... my reasoning is it's done now. I won't be arguing until next sectionals, when it's somewhere stupid like Flagstaff.

[Zhais]

I'm just ecstatic that my first year's sectionals will be within driving distance

Now to just finagle my way into the top 8...

[Jay Young]

Hmm...my post got deleted. Wish someone would tell me. Posts like the above stay, though...

[Rockstar44]

I'd care more about YOUR feelings when you actually field more than 5 people on average at a tournament outside your state.

For the vast majority of US.. and on their behalf.

**** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!


PS: There is a reason you don't hold a tourney but every 7-9 years. Your state blows ass and shouldnt be in our section.

Another rational, thoughtful, intelligent, and insightful post by Fatfencer!

And, hey, you forgot - I am NOT part of the Kansas Division.

For all you know I might be from Tucson....

[Rockstar44]

I'm thinking White Rock, South Dakota for next year's Sectionals.

I think FF would like that....

[Zhais]

I'm thinking White Rock, South Dakota for next year's Sectionals.

I think FF would like that....

Nah, let's make it Lincoln, NE

[fatfencer]

There you go again, thinking that anyone is going to believe any of that because you say it's so...

You are truly a legend in your own mind.

You are the only person who can gliss the way you do and consistently ignore commonly held debate theory and practice.

In short, you are wrong again.

Fatfencer

[bob46]

you are all dumb for arguing over this. obviously some people think albuquerque is the best place and others think kansas city isthe best place. gee, how about... a compromise? *gasp* *pants* *whattt?* *compromise?* *WUZZAT?*



new idea, huh?

[Inquartata]

You are the only person who can gliss the way you do and consistently ignore commonly held debate theory and practice.

"Commonly held". eh? Translation: "Whatever I say they are, and whatever most helps me sound correct".

Very droll, buddy. And still no one is buying it.

t, you are wrong again.

Fatfencer

Argumentum ad nauseam.

[fatfencer]

]"Commonly held". eh? Translation: "Whatever I say they are, and whatever most helps me sound correct".

Very droll, buddy. And still no one is buying it.

[QUOTE]

Pot, calling Kettle black? Are you there? It's me, Pot.....

You call yourself a debater but are essentially COMPLETELY unaware of standard rhetoric convention or debate tactics. Get a book or pay me to teach you, but please oh please stop tellung me I'm wrong just because you dont understand and dont have the spine to go buy a book and read for yourself.

Your consistent misuse of fallacy argumentation should be everyone's first clue, but since most here never debated in HS or College, they just don't know or care.

They see a latin phrase and think.. "Oh god, Inq MUST be right. Surely I dont care about any substance. I can't be bothered. Latin trumps all.."

You know this and thus continue to take the low road.

If you arent an idiot, why do you argue like one? I expect better.

Fatfencer

[Zhais]

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

[bob46]

hmm. this has degenerated into mass yelling. im out. bye.

[Rockstar44]

Get a book or pay me to teach you, but please oh please stop tellung me I'm wrong just because you dont understand and dont have the spine to go buy a book and read for yourself.

Your consistent misuse of fallacy argumentation should be everyone's first clue, but since most here never debated in HS or College, they just don't know or care.

They see a latin phrase and think.. "Oh god, Inq MUST be right. Surely I dont care about any substance. I can't be bothered. Latin trumps all.."

You know this and thus continue to take the low road.

If you arent an idiot, why do you argue like one? I expect better.

Fatfencer

See quote below.

I roll everything up so my fencing gear fits neatly into my mask.

FF

Anything else?

[Inquartata]

[Q
You call yourself a debater

Do I?

I don't suppose you can point out where. But I'm sure you really, really believe I do, anyway. 'Cause, you know...you say so.

but are essentially COMPLETELY unaware of standard rhetoric convention or debate tactics

Heh. You are really hung up on credentials, aren't you?

As I recall, you are the only one claiming ( to this point with no proof offered ) to have been some sort of formal, competitive master debater. And the only one who seems to think it's really, crucially, critically important...

Get a book or pay me to teach you, but please oh please stop tellung me I'm wrong just because you dont understand and dont have the spine to go buy a book and read for yourself.

Nah. You're still just wrong. It's much more fun this way..and probably about as efficacious on you as any actual argument.

Your consistent misuse of fallacy argumentation should be everyone's first clue, but since most here never debated in HS or College, they just don't know or care.

They see a latin phrase and think.. "Oh god, Inq MUST be right. Surely I dont care about any substance. I can't be bothered. Latin trumps all.."

You know this and thus continue to take the low road.

Dude, if all your self-trumpeted vast experience, knowledge and training amounts to is name-calling, threats, bluster and bwa-ha-haing whenever you ( and only you, so far as I can tell ) thinks that you've scored a "zinger"...well...no, I don't think I'm interested in drinking at that well.

If you arent an idiot, why do you argue like one?

Heh. You know, unlike some ( who shall remain nameless, but under whose skin you seem to get ) I am not really affected by this sort of tactic. I mean, maybe if I cared what you think of me...but I hate to break it to you, I just don't.

I care what some people think of me. You're not one. Sorry about that! ( Prohibited fifth smily here )

Anyway, you make some sense occasionally on a few topics, which keeps me reading your posts. But it's a pretty high signal-to-noise ratio. Other than that, mostly I'm amused at how much you amuse yourself...