topleft topright

Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Body Cord Wire

  1. #1
    Senior Member Array nyacfencing's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Manhattan
    Posts
    353

    Body Cord Wire

    I would love to be able to buy a reel of body cord online and never worry about it again for life. However I cannot seem to find any... I tried home depot and such (not a lot of full-scale hardware stores in Manhattan) and tried to find some online, but can only ever locate the 18/2 two-wire type and none of the three-wire that I would need (btw I generally use the orange Prieur cords).

    What type of cord should I be searching for? Does anybody know a good supplier?
    ** My opinions are my own and do not necessarily represent the views of the Metropolitan Division, the New York Athletic Club or my fellow teammates **

  2. #2
    Moderator Array
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    12,167
    Purple Fencer I believe has some. Someone (DHC?) put together a group buy on here a few years ago.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Array JayhawkPawn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    152
    Honestly, I don't think buying in bulk is the way to go, unless you're making them, ala Sam. You're supposed to worry about your bodywires, if you don't relax, and check them before every tournament, buy spares, and don't forget to maintain them, they should last a long time.

    "Two good places to buy

    Sword Masters: Favero Wire
    http://www.sword-masters.com/catalog/
    866-796-7348

    Triplette: They have it made up here in US
    http://triplette.com/catalog/index.php
    336-835-7774

    Both companies have a great wire to replace the wires to your bodycords.

    Note: Neither of the two companies have this wire listed on they're web sites. A phone call will have to be made for pricing.

    I have seen the wire from both companies and personally would use it on my own stuff.

    Good luck.

    Gary Spruill"

    There's where you shoudl start, Gary tends to know his stuff. I made a big comparison amongst bodywires some time ago, but I'm too lazy to search for it. Buy LP cords, just be sure not to step on the three prong ends, or you'll be buying a metric ton of the little plastic retainer clips.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Array fencerbill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    near Boston
    Posts
    3,775
    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    Purple Fencer I believe has some. Someone (DHC?) put together a group buy on here a few years ago.
    It was Purple Fencer who put the group buy together. He made a mistake in not keeping a stock to service the individuals who need a couple of replacements. I am sure he won't make the same mistake next time. What was even nicer was that his wire would fit into the tunnels for LP bayonet plugs.
    Whoopee! My avatar is back.

  5. #5
    Posting Hound Array Purple Fencer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Panorama City, ca USA
    Posts
    10,845
    Quote Originally Posted by fencerbill View Post
    It was Purple Fencer who put the group buy together. He made a mistake in not keeping a stock to service the individuals who need a couple of replacements. I am sure he won't make the same mistake next time. What was even nicer was that his wire would fit into the tunnels for LP bayonet plugs.
    What was worse was I got shorted a good amount and had to take that out of my OWN buy to meet everyone elses orders!

    I don;t have any left, unfortunately. I've been looking into another purchase, but it's ain't cheap when you have to have a minimum order of $1k or more, and I don't have much cash available.
    Need fencing equipment? See me at H.O.M. Fencing Supply

    Going to your first tournament? Read "Choose yer weapon, Laddie (or: Dude, where's my foil?)"

  6. #6
    Senior Member Array fencerbill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    near Boston
    Posts
    3,775
    Time to solicit for another batch. See if the other vendors will buy in to get a decent minimum.

    I will vouch for the wire, there is a continuing need for it.
    Whoopee! My avatar is back.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Array nyacfencing's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Manhattan
    Posts
    353
    I am a little shocked fencing gear isn't based on a standard wire that is easily accessible and highly affordable.
    ** My opinions are my own and do not necessarily represent the views of the Metropolitan Division, the New York Athletic Club or my fellow teammates **

  8. #8
    Posting Hound Array Purple Fencer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Panorama City, ca USA
    Posts
    10,845
    Quote Originally Posted by nyacfencing View Post
    I am a little shocked fencing gear isn't based on a standard wire that is easily accessible and highly affordable.
    That would make FAR too much sense!

    What're more shocking is when a company makes a change that makes it's gear worse....like Uhlmann's change in body cord wire a couple of years back.

    Used to be the wire was smallish and flexible enough to easily fit into the maze that is the plastic housing....NOW it's stiff and so thick GOD has a hard time getting the @%$# stuff to fit!

    That's why I no longer sell Uhlmann cords...until my own FINALLY come on line in some quantity, it's the Post knock offs. They have the same problem ALL the hard-bodied cords do, but at least you can work with the wire.
    Need fencing equipment? See me at H.O.M. Fencing Supply

    Going to your first tournament? Read "Choose yer weapon, Laddie (or: Dude, where's my foil?)"

  9. #9
    MdA
    MdA is offline
    Senior Member Array MdA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    San Antonio
    Posts
    1,545
    My sons and I got into making our own body cords for awhile. Then I decided it was cheaper to pick up a couple cheap Chinese cords at each NAC. I can't compete with the Chinese manufacturers for my time or money.
    Last edited by MdA; 09-10-2008 at 06:04 PM. Reason: Msp

  10. #10
    ಠ_ಠ Array
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    5,960
    Blog Entries
    25
    i saw some cord that was identical to the standard uhlmann cord in radio shack. didn't buy any, since radio shack is super over expensive, and haven't seen any of the same gauge since.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Array fencerbill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    near Boston
    Posts
    3,775
    2 conductor cord is not nearly the problem that the 3 conductor cord used for Epee body cords is.

    You can use the 3 conductor to make Foil body cords, I think it is Negrini where it is so obvious that they start with 3 conductor cord.

    Lamp cord (2 conductor) can be found in many, many places. But 3 conductor is not common at all. Did you say you found 3 conductor cord in Radio Shack? If so, it would be a first as far as I am concerned.
    Whoopee! My avatar is back.

  12. #12
    ಠ_ಠ Array
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    5,960
    Blog Entries
    25
    Quote Originally Posted by fencerbill View Post
    2 conductor cord is not nearly the problem that the 3 conductor cord used for Epee body cords is.

    You can use the 3 conductor to make Foil body cords, I think it is Negrini where it is so obvious that they start with 3 conductor cord.

    Lamp cord (2 conductor) can be found in many, many places. But 3 conductor is not common at all. Did you say you found 3 conductor cord in Radio Shack? If so, it would be a first as far as I am concerned.
    yep, it was there. and, again, haven't seen it since, but i've been to radio shacks before, including the same one i saw it in.

  13. #13
    Armorer Array DHCJr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Long Beach, CA / Las Vegas
    Posts
    4,428
    Quote Originally Posted by nyacfencing View Post
    I am a little shocked fencing gear isn't based on a standard wire that is easily accessible and highly affordable.
    Actually they are in a way. Lamp cords in Europe are three conductor. It was acceptable for floor cords, but lousy for Body cords as it was stiff.

    I was able to pick up some cord at Lamp Plus. They had some European style track lighting with three wire.

    Even in Europe, using Lamp cord is not the same as fencing wire. They have different purposes.

    As Bill said you can use Lamp cord. Go to a lamp and feel the cord and move it around. It is stiff!

    With lamp cord you don't need to have a lot of strands. With fencing you need a lot of smaller strands for flexibility and lower resistance. More strands means higher cost.

    We could go to the other extreme. I would love to see a body wire made like Mueler patch cords. They would be Ultra-flexible and Ultra-expensive.

    Body wires are a compromise as is everything.
    Donald Hollis Clinton, Jr.
    DHCJr@juno.com

    To Teach is to Learn (Japanese Proverb)

    Knowing the rule book by heart means nothing, if you don't understand the rules.

  14. #14
    Member Array Mr.Piccolo22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Long Island, NY USA
    Posts
    80

    One Solution

    I have been getting my wires on a spool for a long time now. I have been buying my supply from DelCity.net. And they do have the three conductor wire for Epee. As for the longevity of the wire, I use shrink tube for where the wire goes through and haven't had too much of an issue. I have also bored out the groove a little more for the two prongs so the shrink tube can fit in nicely. I also gave one of my friends the same wire and he finally after two years he had to cut it back. So, either it's good wire, or I am just really lucky. I hope that helps you out.
    Last edited by Mr.Piccolo22; 09-12-2008 at 02:34 PM.
    Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction.
    -Albert Einstein

  15. #15
    Senior Member Array wahrman's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    631
    I've been using grounded computer power cords for body wire for a while now. They work pretty well and fairly easy to find cheaply.

  16. #16
    Senior Member Array brtech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    1,511
    My armorer buddy Tim Hively makes his out of white jacketed round power cable he gets from Home Depot. They are pretty indestructible cables, although they aren't the most flexible cord on the block. The outer insulation doesn't necessarily stay under the cable clamp, but the wire doesn't break for a loong time.

Similar Threads

  1. Body Cord Wire
    By LordShout in forum Armory - Q&A
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-01-2008, 04:33 PM
  2. H.O.M. Body cord wire....preparing another order
    By Purple Fencer in forum Armory - Q&A
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-08-2007, 04:20 PM
  3. bulk wire for epee body cord
    By Koan in forum Armory - Q&A
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-14-2007, 04:08 PM
  4. Uhlmann Body cord wire crimp sleeves
    By ksievers in forum Armory - Q&A
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-21-2007, 09:45 PM
  5. Body cord wire...update for those who bought!
    By Purple Fencer in forum Armory - Q&A
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-15-2005, 05:29 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30