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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK View Post
    FRED, as it stands, isn't a great idea.
    But it's very close.

    Any system developed will need to be done with the blessing of the USFA. It will need to meet the security and privacy standards that the USFA requires. And, for it to really have value, it will have to get access to the USFA data.

    In terms of features, FRED is far and above more complete than any other existing system, and to create a new one with even half of FRED's features would (a) take some time and (b) be a huge waste of time and money.

    Instead, adapting FRED to the requirements of the USFA would make the most sense since it is (a) a proven technology, (b) the established standard for local clubs/divisions, and (c) already has most of the features the USFA needs.

    Trust me, progress is being made. Yes, that statement is intentionally vague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    Are there specific problems with FRED that make it unusable for NAC registrations?
    When in BC mode and creating custom fields with drop-down menus for fencers to choose from, the menu text does not allow for non alphanumeric characters. Can't use commas, apostrophes, dollar signs, en-dash, em-dash, periods, etc. Actually, commas are allowed, but only as the separator. Can't use commas as part of the text.
    =)=///

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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    When in BC mode and creating custom fields with drop-down menus for fencers to choose from, the menu text does not allow for non alphanumeric characters. Can't use commas, apostrophes, dollar signs, en-dash, em-dash, periods, etc. Actually, commas are allowed, but only as the separator. Can't use commas as part of the text.
    If that is the only problem anyone has (which I doubt) then I think fixing that will be much easier than starting over, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    If that is the only problem anyone has (which I doubt) then I think fixing that will be much easier than starting over, don't you?
    I don't know, the ellipsis is tricky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    When in BC mode and creating custom fields with drop-down menus for fencers to choose from, the menu text does not allow for non alphanumeric characters. Can't use commas, apostrophes, dollar signs, en-dash, em-dash, periods, etc. Actually, commas are allowed, but only as the separator. Can't use commas as part of the text.
    Dude, are you serious? If that's the biggest issue FRED has, I'm a freakin' rockstar!*







    * it's not, and I'm not.....

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    I know that some NAC's have a huge attendance, could FRED actually handle that?
    "When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and bearing a cross."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolano View Post
    I know that some NAC's have a huge attendance, could FRED actually handle that?
    Yes.

    Besides, fatter hardware can easily be obtained, if needed.

    -p

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    As someone who was part of an informal study group to examine what would be needed for FRED to handle NAC registrations, the issues, while non-trival, are not exactly what you would call earth shattering.

    A simple solution would be to liscence the FRED software with a couple of minor tweaks, and run it on a seperate machine. Would probably take all of, oh, about 3 weeks worth of work.
    That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oso97 View Post
    Would probably take all of, oh, about 3 weeks worth of work.
    Which actually translates to 6 weeks of work with only 80% of the original feature set implemented. Or was the REF (Reality Estimation Formula) of doubling the amount of time of the most conservative estimate already used in the original estimation figure?

    Seriously though, the USFA has needed an online registration system for a long time. Any amount of progress would be a welcome in my opinion.

    Later for now,

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    Quote Originally Posted by peet View Post
    Dude, are you serious? If that's the biggest issue FRED has, I'm a freakin' rockstar!*







    * it's not, and I'm not.....
    It is to me... so far. I'll ***** and moan some more once I use it more often for setting up events, which I will be doing with higher frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscanlon View Post
    Which actually translates to 6 weeks of work with only 80% of the original feature set implemented. Or was the REF (Reality Estimation Formula) of doubling the amount of time of the most conservative estimate already used in the original estimation figure?
    Actually, the formula for software development is to double the number value and step up to the next level of units (hours->days->weeks->months->years->decades->etc.) For example: original estimate = 3 weeks, actual time = 6 months :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    It is to me... so far. I'll ***** and moan some more once I use it more often for setting up events, which I will be doing with higher frequency.
    We can tell that after getting the request to pre-register a second time for the BayCup VETs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddavis View Post
    Actually, the formula for software development is to double the number value and step up to the next level of units (hours->days->weeks->months->years->decades->etc.) For example: original estimate = 3 weeks, actual time = 6 months :-)
    Let's be kind here. You forgot "quarters" between "months" and "years".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjefferies View Post
    We can tell that after getting the request to pre-register a second time for the BayCup VETs.
    And did you?
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