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Old 08-10-2008, 08:50 PM   #1
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seth kelsey is fat

wow, i cant believe he got his ass beat by a world-class athlete in the very first bout.
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I'm not sure what your criticism is.
Are you being sarcastic?

The way you phrase it it seems as if you think the fact that his opponent was a world class athlete should make the outcome less likely.

In general not a very intelligent or constructive post.
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Are you being sarcastic?
Mefinks, yes.
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being optimistic here

i think cleveland is being sarcastic and replying to criticisms made on kelsey's athletic shape in the epee thread.

or maybe i'm just putting my own meaning into there
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He's just big-boned.
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wow, i cant believe he got his ass beat by a world-class athlete in the very first bout.
How's your effort coming for 2012?

You do realise that HALF of the athletes that go to Beijing to fence go out in their first fight don't you?
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Well, no, because of byes.

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You do realise that HALF of the athletes that go to Beijing to fence go out in their first fight don't you?
You do realize you're really bad at math don't you?

It appears in Kelsey's event 24 athletes survived the first DE in which they fenced while 17 went out in their "first fight".

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I'm not sure what your criticism is.
Are you being sarcastic?

The way you phrase it it seems as if you think the fact that his opponent was a world class athlete should make the outcome less likely.

In general not a very intelligent or constructive post.
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Seth Kelsey isn't fat. Jim Carpenter in 1996, now HE was fat.

/Sorry, Jim
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The Heidenheim is generally considered the toughest epee comp in the world, and the most physically demanding. If you medal in that, you are a world-class athlete.

I'm curious to those that don't think Seth is a good athlete how many have actually fenced him? I am even more interested in seeing them say that to his face and be surprised what “fat” can do.

My question is why are no other world-class epee fencers committed enough to do the amount of high-altitude training that Seth does? Don’t they even care?

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You do realize you're really bad at math don't you?

It appears in Kelsey's event 24 athletes survived the first DE in which they fenced while 17 went out in their "first fight".
My point; as I am sure you realise was that it is a DE only event. The only way that it can be other than a 50% drop out is if there is an incomplete 64 and someone who earned a bye gets beaten by someone who didn't.

If you look at it less literally Seth effectively won his first fight 15 - 0 by being highly ranked and earning a bye.
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Maybe 6' 4" 225 isn't so fat.

feet inch lbs
IMRE Geza-6-0-161
YIN Lianchi-6-1-165
JIN SUN Jung-6-1-174
TAGLIARIOL Matteo-6-2-172
TIKHOMIROV Igor-6-2-216
KAUTER Michael-6-2-x
CONFALONIERI Diego-6-3-172
ROBEIRI Ulrich-6-3-176
VERWIJLEN Bas-6-3-181
JEANNET Jerome-6-3-187
FERNANDEZ BRICENO-6-4-154
JEANNET Fabrice -6-4-187
ABAJO Jose Luis -6-4-192
BOCZKO Gabor-6-4-192
KELSEY Seth-6-4-225
CHUMAK Dmytro-6-5-194


Basketball
Are these guys fat?

Kobe Bryant-6-6-220
Dwyane Wade-6-4-216
Jason Kidd-6-4-210
Carlos Boozer-6-9-266
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Maybe 6' 4" 225 isn't so fat.

feet inch lbs
IMRE Geza-6-0-161
YIN Lianchi-6-1-165
JIN SUN Jung-6-1-174
TAGLIARIOL Matteo-6-2-172
TIKHOMIROV Igor-6-2-216
KAUTER Michael-6-2-x
CONFALONIERI Diego-6-3-172
ROBEIRI Ulrich-6-3-176
VERWIJLEN Bas-6-3-181
JEANNET Jerome-6-3-187
FERNANDEZ BRICENO-6-4-154
JEANNET Fabrice -6-4-187
ABAJO Jose Luis -6-4-192
BOCZKO Gabor-6-4-192
KELSEY Seth-6-4-225
CHUMAK Dmytro-6-5-194


Basketball
Are these guys fat?

Kobe Bryant-6-6-220
Dwyane Wade-6-4-216
Jason Kidd-6-4-210
Carlos Boozer-6-9-266

weight is not always the best measurement of "fatness"
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weight is not always the best measurement of "fatness"
To true, it has much more to do with your choice of tailor.
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This is Janet. I fenced Seth in the Military Championships a few years ago while he was at the Academy. Seeing his picture recently, his face appears much rounder, more filled out than it was at that time. I did get two touches on him.
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Maybe 6' 4" 225 isn't so fat.

feet inch lbs
IMRE Geza-6-0-161
YIN Lianchi-6-1-165
JIN SUN Jung-6-1-174
TAGLIARIOL Matteo-6-2-172
TIKHOMIROV Igor-6-2-216
KAUTER Michael-6-2-x
CONFALONIERI Diego-6-3-172
ROBEIRI Ulrich-6-3-176
VERWIJLEN Bas-6-3-181
JEANNET Jerome-6-3-187
FERNANDEZ BRICENO-6-4-154
JEANNET Fabrice -6-4-187
ABAJO Jose Luis -6-4-192
BOCZKO Gabor-6-4-192
KELSEY Seth-6-4-225
CHUMAK Dmytro-6-5-194


Basketball
Are these guys fat?

Kobe Bryant-6-6-220
Dwyane Wade-6-4-216
Jason Kidd-6-4-210
Carlos Boozer-6-9-266


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Seth Kelsey isn't fat. Jim Carpenter in 1996, now HE was fat.

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